For the most part, city dwellers are incapable of understanding life’s basic rules

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that is why we say move some of the population to the rural areas, let the rural folks show us how it's done

    let's be honest, rural people do not have the answers, they just choose to move away from the problems caused by large populations, the good news is, Starlink means many can move rural now, cheaper living and high speed internet.... nice
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we know, we know, Joe knows best.... :worship:

    who else benefits from these laws... follow the money
     
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    Tall on complaints, but short on solutions.

    As usual .
     
  4. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you live there, kinda proves it's not only liberals that live there
     
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    In my experience the complete opposite is true. City life is more competitive and expensive. The exceptional person out in the country is average in the city.
     
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    Well that's all that's important: your experience. It doesn't matter that you have no objective proof of your judgements. As far as why people with different experience, who have different opinions than you, must be wrong, while you are obviously right-- well I'm sure you can explain that, too. Also without facts.
     
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    What is so funny, is that, though the only source I ever see you use, is yourself, it is still so easy to find contradiction of your opinion, in that very same source. Here, for example, you begin by making a case that the "country" experience carries with it, different (read: better) values, than the city experience. Those who don't "fit," you suggest, are just not as decent, as those who can "merge into a small social group."

    Then, however, you go on to admit, "there are all kinds of people," and that we seek others with whom we connect, and have things in common, to whom we relate, and who are "like" ourselves. So it only makes sense-- applying common sense, strictly to your own explanation-- that those who are the most "normal," average, unremarkable, bland people, will be those for whom it is easiest to "merge," and those who are more unique, will obviously have a harder time finding others, like themselves, within a smaller community. This is self-evident, though I imagine you will try to argue that it is not.

    The problem arises, in that you are equating one's being different from the usual, run-of-the-mill, type of person, with having different "values," with the implication being, as I began by noting, that the country type values are superior to those of "city people." I think your post's next sentence, further bears this out:


    This builds on your previous post:

    Essentially, if one is to take it that you are an example of "country" values, that would mean that these are defined by being more closed-minded, judgemental, demanding of conformity, and prejudicial. I know, however, that you are not a representative for all country folk. Some are quite warm, welcoming, and open-minded. Just as you will find both this type, and your own type, in a city environment.

    What your posts do, is try to cast stereotypes. And, while I will admit that there is probably a grain or two of truth, in both the positive image you spin, of country-dwellers, and the negative one you conjure of urbanites, those images are not comprehensive. That is, there are other stereotypes which, we would then have to admit, must also contain some truth, both about people who live in cities-- who are nevertheless, gregarious, free-spirited, friendly, and ready to help out a neighbor-- as well as stereotypes of those living out in the sticks, that are, shall we say, less than complimentary. To put it another way-- have you ever seen the movie, "Deliverance?"

     
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    I think he means "church stuff".

    You ain't a decent neighbor if you don't have a fear of God, blah, blah, blah.:rolleyes:
     
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    Please don't do that. We don't need or want you out here.
     
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    How neighborly of you. Sheesh….with attitudes like yours it’s no wonder why this country is so divided.
     
  11. Joe knows

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    But the other persons attitude didn’t warrant the same comment? And you don’t think you’re part of that division
     
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    What exactly was so un-neighborly about what WhoDat said?

    I welcome all walks of life to my rural town. I don’t care what your politics are. If you’re a good person, I’m pleased to meet you and live near you.
     
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    I think you are talking relevance in a limited metric. Today- a successful farmers may have 2000 acres or more under cultivation. Perhaps a $1M invested in equipment, and is vary much an expert in the technical aspects of maximizing production- as much so as any big business manager, except ti's usually just his butt on the line instead of stockholders. That man could go to the city and fill many, many executive or top production positions, because he is a self-starter and manager- he knows how to make big things happen. I've been an employer for 53 years, covers a lot of territory- and I would hire a farm boy over a city bred boy for any starting position, with a lot more confidence. He will learn faster, work harder and be more reliable. Anyone bringing those qualities to his job interview goes to the top of the list of all with similar job skills.

    Farmers compete on a different basis than those is the city; their biggest opposition comes from nature, and that's not in anyone's power to change. They also compete with time- the process of farming crops has to adhere closely to the timing nature provides as the ideal windows. High-risk business. Ranching more competitive in ways, but different.

    If you are only experienced on one side of this, you won't agree. Having lived in both worlds, I see it clearly. For example, in the 2020 election, Micheal Bloomberg decided to jump in. He's a billionaire that created an investment information firm- which costs 20K a year to subscribe to. Obviously, a smart and successful guy. In one meeting, he was asked about some of the job losses being created by things he endorsed.
    His answer- "They can always become farmers. Anyone can do that. You punch a hole in the ground, drop in a seed, cover it up and water it, and you have a crop"....

    Every one in the world that knows anything about agricultural laughed at a billionaire making a fool of himself, with an ignorant, moronic statement. What you know actually depends on where you came from, what you lived with. Everybody is ignorant about something. The trick is, not to pretend you aren't.
     
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    LOL.
     
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    Not sure where you think i am from or where i live, but i promise you I am a country person.
     
  16. spiritgide

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    Is it doorbell time again??
    You want someone else'e opinion to back up my opinion before you can understand it is my opinion?
    You do understand (at least there should be a small possibility) that having first-hand personal experience here, that I might have a valid opinion?
    Do you understand that an opinion is an individuals point of view, not a dictate or battle for a point on the scoreboard of life?
    I don't think so. That is my opinion...


    I've really tried to figure our why so many people have lost the capacity for reason and common sense these days. The lose the ability to communicate- to replace it with argument and think it's the same thing.

    Life is a school from start to finish. IF you want to learn things- you not only observe, but you take your clues from and ask your questions of the people who have the experience and can do successfully whatever you are trying to learn. If you don't hear what you want to hear and reject it- you learn Nada. Zero. Wise people won't waste time trying to fix that for you because it's your problem, and you have a right not to learn from anyone. And of course, to all the consequences of not learning.

    Does anybody ever ask you anything beyond what day is it?
     
  17. Joe knows

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    What’s neighborly about going off topic and being so offended by small towns that the first thing they say is a threat to send people there. I’m my small town we also would prefer less city people. I don’t live in town but their attitude towards big city is only friendly at the gift shops
     
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    You have gross perceptional issues. Nothing I can do to help you, nor am I motivated to bother. In my opinion-
    You are not in a position to begin to understand the position you are in, to understand why you think as you do, or understand the barriers that creates for you.
    That's an observation, and an opinion- not an insult. It is however an opinion of a person with enough recognized skills in these things that psychologists often came to the classes I taught for several years in re-programming your own mind, to learn to think more effectively, to maximize your own capacity. Boeing for example, paid to send about 100 of their mid-level management people to my classes as well, so there are some indications I might know some things you don't. But, it is just my opinion.
     
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    That you think city people moving to the country is un-neighborly speaks volumes about your poor attitude
     
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    An article in the news this morning illustrates how large the gap can become when people lose touch with reality and base values. Bear in mind- that in a true rural world, you are a lot closer to the absolute rules of nature than you would be in the city.

    There's a private, prestigious and high-dollar university in New York City, called "The New School". Students there decided to take over and "occupy" the campus and have several demands- one of which is that everybody gets "A:" grades across the board.

    How does any person become so distant from the concepts of meritocracy and performance as to think that is rational? Especially people supposedly intelligent enough to be a University levels?
    This is the way liberal thinking works. Buy the hat, and putting it on makes you a pilot or whatever.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/stude...iversity-occupy-campus-demand-grades-everyone
     
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    They didn’t say it with anything other than an attempt to jab. Keep reading and they even threaten to send their homeless. You’re just backing up a political ideology rather than their intent. Speaks more about you than us.
     
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    Since climate change can affect food production I would think that would important.
     
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    So can liberal policies so why not just let nature react. Look, if you like grocery shelves being full you won’t restrict the energy needed for food. If you’re that partisan that you’re willing to starve yourself then I suppose you deserve what you get. We will just keep the food we can grow to our own community
     
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    If he later stated to send homeless then that is different. It’s not neighborly to do such a thing. As for the statement of his I replied to there was nothing wrong with it and you know it.
     

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