'Absurd' To Call Oath Keepers Insurrectionists Or A National Security Threat, Former FBI Agent...

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  1. BuckyBadger

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    'Absurd' To Call Oath Keepers Insurrectionists Or A National Security Threat, Former FBI Agent Testifies

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/a...-or-national-security-threat-former-fbi-agent

    John Guandolo, who handled counter-terrorism and criminal investigations during nearly 13 years as an FBI special agent, said he found “absurd” the idea that Oath Keepers tried to overthrow the federal government. Guandolo was at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, in a personal capacity.

    Might be the best take I have seen about 1/6 and all of the disinformation being spread by the media and the current Adminsitration. Discuss!
     
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    Right-wing nutter former FBI agents says....
     
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    They're an extremist group. They have an extreme view that the oath they took to uphold and protect the constitution takes precedence over following orders that violate the constitution. How evil :rolleyes:

    Really they're just enemies of out-of-control govt.
     
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    those that tried to install Trump as President - need to be treated as such - do the crime, do the time
     
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    Exactly...
    The OPINION of an RW Looney Toon...
     
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    The VP rejecting election results and picking who he wants as president is out of control govt
     
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    Yes, this witness is super trustworthy.

    I mean when Oath Keeper Kelly Meggs texted his family he “Was going to go on a killing spree” and “ Pelosi is 1st”, then promptly made his way to the place she works and broke in. Being stopped before you commit your crime does not absolve you from your seditious terrorist act
     
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    Still tired of winning. !!!

    A couple more of those insurrectionists are on trial and headed to a 14x8 for 23 hrs a day luxurious apartment.
     
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    If John Guandolo :roflol:even "might be the best take" you've seen about 1/6 then that explains everything about all the other batshit crazies you're a such a devoted supporter of.
     
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    HAWHAWHAW!! Kelly was just joshing around! He's totally innoc--errr---exoner---umm, he's guilty, but only of making bad jokes! Those Oath Keeper fellas are so silly.
     
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    Now it's "protecting the Constitution" to attack the Capitol building to stop Congress from certifying the actual results of an election so that the Orange Dingleberry can declare martial law?

    That's ****ing insane. Let those bastards find out why they call it "the pokie"
     
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    So what Oath Keeper supporter here will be the first to claim that killing Pelosi wasn't really Meggs "intent"?
    LOL
     
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    That is a good point. Many, who favor ANTIFA tactics and that organization are lashing out at Oath Keepers who tend to be more rooted in defending The Constitution of the United States rather than destroying society and encoraging fascist behavior. What matters most is that this group is right wing and therefore doesn't get equal protection in the judicial system as those on the far left.

    If you look at ANTIFA and the Oath Keepers at face value, their members are completely different as is thier mission. ANTIFA is comprised of mostly anarchists, Communists, rebels, criminals and gay rights activists. Their goal is shut down speech and to destroy the institutions that they feel are not serving their purposes. They use race/gender and hatred as a central platform.

    Oath Keepers is comprised of mostly military/ex-military/Police and others who took an Oath to uphold and defend The Constitution. The two opposing groups could not be any further a part. But for the most part, ANTIFA are allowed to detsroy businesses and escape any real punishment by judicial systems in far left cities and states, like Portland, OR or Seattle, WA. Almost the exact opposite is true of a group who wants to keep the US Constitutional. If they break the law, which they do, they are subject to repraisals that paint the group as far violent extremist groups looking to overthrow the government.

    Are Judges this corrupt that they are unable to look at opposing groups and mitigate out justice equally? Do they have alterior motives where they embrace tyranny over The Constitution? It's an honest question because right now, there seems to be a slant rooted in corruption at almost every level of our system.
     
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    Well, they're taking a dump all over the country and the Constitution. The ignorant traitors.
     
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    They brought some MyPillows and were going to take a few swats at Nancy.
     
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    Mike Lindell will swear to god that's the truth.
     
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    Lol…so trying to overturn an election by an insurrection is defending the constitution, eh?
    Who the hell do you people think you’re kidding?
     
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    Let us know when that happens.
     
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    If Pence hadn't stood up to Trump - that's exactly what would have happened.
    Just because a person walks into a bank and demands money but is stopped by the bank manager doesn't mean the guy didn't attempt to
    rob a bank.
     
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    Smear merchant says....?
     
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    Guandolo was dismissed from the FBI for unethical behavior;.
     
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    A jury of their peers made a decision after hearing all the information presented to them, by the prosecution and the defense.
     
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    google the author, he is a RW anti-muslim guy lol so easy
     
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    Washington DC jury selection begins on Monday.
    iirc: They're all being held without bond?


    "Proud Boys Trial Is Set to Open, Focusing on Role in Jan. 6 Violence"


    "The charge of seditious conspiracy is the same as in a recent trial of members of the Oath Keepers militia, but the Proud Boys defendants are accused of a central role in the fighting at the Capitol."

    Snip:

    "While prosecutors could have taken the five Proud Boys to trial on relatively simple charges like trespassing or interfering with law enforcement officers, they instead aimed higher and charged sedition, which carries a hefty 20-year maximum sentence and has much more serious political connotations. But by doing so, the government has assumed the burden of proving that the defendants plotted in advance of Jan. 6 to use force to oppose the authority of the U.S. government or to interfere with the execution of federal laws — in this case, those that govern the transfer of presidential power.

    Much as in Mr. Rhodes’s trial, the government’s presentation in the Proud Boys trial will seek to bolster its sedition charges with thousands of internal text messages seized by the government and insider testimony from cooperating witnesses. But the differences between the two proceedings may be more instructive than their similarities.

    For one thing, prosecutors never accused Mr. Rhodes and his four co-defendants of personally committing serious acts of violence at the Capitol. Instead, they proved that the Oath Keepers plotted to use force against the government by pointing out that the group persistently said a civil war might be needed to fight the administration of Joseph R. Biden Jr. and that on Jan. 6 it stashed an arsenal of high-powered weapons in hotel rooms in Virginia.

    But in trying the Proud Boys, prosecutors plan to take a different tack: They will offer the jury a detailed account of how the five defendants — including Enrique Tarrio, the group’s former chairman — led their own troops and other “tools” in the mob into battle at the Capitol and played a central role in breaches of the building and in hand-to-hand fights with the police;."
    cont:


    https://archive.ph/Zz2Xn
     
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    I'd like to see ANTIFA treated the same way as the fake patriots in groups like the Oath Keepers. I think both groups and any groups like them are just outlets for dumbasses to rebel. None of these people have any solutions, nor do they want them. They enjoy the power trip and the community that being a part of these groups provides them, and they enjoy the sense of purpose they get from pretending they are doing good things for their country. If by some force of magic, all the members of ANTIFA groups and the right-wing fake patriot groups were all blinked out of existence, this country would go on better than it was pre-blink.
     
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