Trump supporter ‘Diamond’ died of heart disease, death certificate says

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  1. FatBack

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    In fact I'm pretty sure he never mentioned the word bleach at all.
     
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    He mentions disinfectant one time in the context of the disinfection nature of heat and light. That single word ignited a firestorm over the media saying he suggested injecting bleach. You are correct. Bleach was never mentioned by Trump.
     
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    No, he didn't. Biden lied when he said, "On COVID-19, Donald Trump said that “maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay.”

    Donald Trump: (29:46)
    A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right? And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs
    and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.
     
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    Remember the media and shitstorm that ensued! Five alarm hysteria. It's no wonder the lemmings ran with the lies, some still repeating them! I bet this is the same crowd who still believes the manufactured lie that Trump conspired with Putin to with the election.

    You're right, and the transcript I reposted above shows he only mentioned disinfectant once. Thanks for explaining the context of Trump's ponderings regarding the disinfection nature of heat and light.
     
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    Heat and light have always been known as disinfectants. Trump was just musing on how science could possibly use it to target covid viruses like radiation targets cancer cells.

    https://www.cnet.com/health/can-uv-light-protect-you-from-covid-19/
     
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    Basically because it was hilariously stupid and ignorant.

    Quite frankly you could have been anyone with a high enough profile saying that and got the same reaction.

    Why do you think we are still talking about Tuckers Testicular Tanning (along with Tuckums other sexual innuendos - something he thinks is an Italian suppository)
     
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    I literally cannot read this without laughing

    I mean we are talking something so toxic here that even testing on mice would only reduce the rodent population
     
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    Are you saying heat and light has no disinfectant quality to them?
     
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    No he used the word “disinfectant”. But I will give you an opportunity here - list me those disinfectants that are effective against viruses but are safe in vivo
     
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    You understand the concept of in vitro versus in vivo yes?
     
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    I do. Your point (relative to the subject we are discussing)?
     
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    If Trump actually said what some of the media and the lib's echo chamber said he said, inject disinfectant for Covid treatment, you'd have a valid point.

    The media made more stink over something Trump didn't say than the willful lies another high-profile person did say.
    I don't suppose you recall what Biden said during the debates. He said that Trump told people to drink bleach for Covid treatment and they'd be okay.
    Yeah, go ahead and literally laugh at Biden's "ignorance" and "hilarious stupidity". Stuff like that makes me literally weep that this clown is the leader of the free world.
     
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    You have to wonder why the moderator of that debate didn't fact check Biden on his lie. Wasn't that Wallace? The Trump hater.
     
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    Him sayining “bring it inside” was even more hilarious

    Oh! Come on!

    Poor widdle Trumpie!! De poor mans been picked on!

    Remember this was not in isolation - there were so so so many other outrageous gaffes and examples of idiocy
     
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    Try to focus on the one under discussion. You can always start a separate thread about all the other gaffes you attribute to Trump.
     
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    Yes. It was the first presidential debate and moderator Wallace said zip. Really, how sad was that? Not to call Biden out on a lie Wallace knew was a whopper of a lie. :disbelief:
    But look where Mike Wallace is now. You ever hear his name? Crap News Network.

    I rest my case.
     
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    He was always overrated.
     
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    Just like hands up don't shoot......

    Once their TV gives them the marching orders and and winds them up and let them go and directts them what to say..... They will repeat lies shamelessly no matter how many times they have been corrected .

    Completely shamelessly and with no integrity and incredibly usefully.
     
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    I'll give you a better opportunity..... Why don't you list all the disinfectants that are effective against viruses but not necessarily safe inside the body and tell me how you and the media just decided to settle on bleach....

    He was doing nothing but speculating out loud and he's obviously not a doctor. Does hydrogen peroxide work on viruses? Is it ever used internally?
     
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    Remember the Bob Woodward audio of Trump admitting he deliberately lied to the American people when he downplayed the severity of Covid?

    All the President’s Lies About the Coronavirus
    "An unfinished compendium of Trump’s overwhelming dishonesty during a national emergency"

    Updated at 2:20 p.m. ET on November 2, 2020.

    "President Donald Trump has repeatedly lied about the coronavirus pandemic and the country’s preparation for this once-in-a-generation crisis.

    Here, a collection of the biggest lies he’s told as the nation endures a public-health and economic calamity. This post will be updated as needed."



    "On the Nature of the Outbreak"

    When: Friday, February 7, and Wednesday, February 19

    The claim: The coronavirus would weaken “when we get into April, in the warmer weather—that has a very negative effect on that, and that type of a virus.”

    The truth: When Trump made this claim, it was too early to tell whether the virus’s spread would be dampened by warmer conditions, though public-health experts and epidemiologists were immediately skeptical of Trump’s comment. But the spring and summer have passed, and the pandemic is still raging.



    very long article (chuckle)
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/11/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/
     
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    Trump's deliberate self-serving negligence and lies about Covid 19.

    "Timeline of Trump’s Coronavirus Responses"
    March 2, 2022
    Blog Post

    Snip:

    Feb. 2, 2020

    “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

    Feb. 7, 2020

    “It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu... This is deadly stuff” [Trump in a private interview with Bob Woodward from The Washington Post made public on Sept. 9, 2020]


    Feb. 10, 2020

    “I think the virus is going to be—it’s going to be fine.”

    Feb. 10, 2020

    “Looks like by April, you know in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”

    Feb. 24, 2020

    “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… the Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

    Feb. 25, 2020

    “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”

    Feb. 25, 2020

    “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”

    Feb. 26, 2020

    “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”


    cont:
    https://doggett.house.gov/media/blog-post/timeline-trumps-coronavirus-responses
     
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    Some more gems:

    March 2, 2020

    “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?” [Trump to health officials who answered "No."]

    March 2, 2020

    “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”

    March 4, 2020

    “Now, and this is just my hunch, and — but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. Because a lot people will have this and it's very mild.”

    March 4, 2020

    If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”

    March 5, 2020

    “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
     
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    Nothing that Doctor Faucci said is not true. According to the studies, the intial effectiveness for Pfizer was 76%. Moderna was 81% with the initial vaccine before the Covid virus mutated. Furthermore, the intial warp speed target mark was 50% under the Trump directive. Hence, it exceeded even what Trump suggested in the beginning.

    Second, What Biden said was more along the lines of public safety and encouragement. It was hoped that would be the case that we can treat Covid the same way as we treated Polio in the early days of the polio vaccine in the 1930s. Polio has now been effectively wiped out in the US but still occurs in certain parts of the world, namely Africa, where the vaccine has not been widely distributed amongst the poorest of the poor there. third, from the get-go, this was a two-stage vaccine shot. This happens with certain vaccines, like rabies if you are bitten by an animal suspected of rabies for instance. This is multiple shot vaccine program. And there are a few others besides covid. Covid now is like the flu where you will need an annual booster every year to protect you from Covid. The Flu Vaccine is varied each and every year depending on which strands of the flu may or have run rampant in the past and currently.
     

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