It Really Doesn’t Make Sense to Blame Crime on Poverty

Point being crime and immorality is nothing new. Let’s not pretend it is

 

Strawman alert! Never said crime was new. Or that immorality was new.

Do you have any idea what the poverty rate was in 1933? Over 70%. Do you think our crime rate would be higher or lower than 9/100,000 if the poverty rate today was 70%?

My point is that the moral constitution of an individual has more effect on their propensity to commit crime than other factors like economics or authoritarian laws.

 

That’s nice, but I get the sense someone who would physically harm another human being for money probably will not care about your preference. So what then?

 

If I caught someone harming another for money they would end up in the morgue or hospital before making it to prison.

I’m talking about PREVENTING crime, not what happens after crime has been committed.

The only way to prevent crime is for the individual to not desire to commit crime.

 

I am sure you could your own Venn diagrams if you so desired. You probably learned how by third grade. The High Priests only own the turf as long as you allow them too.

 

And one way to thwart that desire is to create a deterrent, but today’s brand of Progressive DA sees it differently. They don’t even agree with your thinking. They’re not looking to create a lack of desire to commit a crime. They are literally redefining what is a crime. The desire to harm another —- at least in smaller ways like shoplifting, breaking an entering, making threats, — is not removed. It’s instead legitimized.

 

Which is why I’m here.

 

Art imitating life or life imitating art? There is stronger evidence that violent crime rates are more influenced by demographics, particularly the number of young males. I don't think Harry Potter books are the reason we are see declining murder rates.

 

Yes, crime kills neighborhoods, but the left doesn't have the good sense to see that. They seem to view smash and grab criminals as romantic figures who are extracting "reparations" for years of oppression. They are really opportunists who are taking advantage of left wing policies. Criminals don't care about their race or their neighborhoods. They are taking care of themselves.

 

Your blaming it on Chrisitianty now?

 

It's the other way around. High crime creates poverty.

Look at all the major stores closing shop in high crime areas like Portland, for example.

Walmart...I'll say that again...WALMART is closing all it's stores in Portland because of the crime.

This is how the "racist food deserts" the left always whines about are created.

 

Hating everything is in their DNA.

 

And this is what crime causes

Walmart to shutter Portland locations just months after CEO’s warnings on crime
The stores will officially close later in March

...The announcements come just a few months after the Walmart CEO warned stores could close and prices could increase in light of sky-high retail crimes affecting stores across the country.

"Theft is an issue. It’s higher than what it has historically been," Walmart CEO Doug McMillon said in December on CNBC. He added that "prices will be higher and/or stores will close" if authorities don’t crack down on prosecuting shoplifting crimes....
https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/...cations-just-months-after-ceos-warnings-crime

Yep all those people enjoying all the free stuff they steal will now be screaming WALMART IS RACIST!!!!!

 

Unfortunately the type that commits violent crime begin very early.

 

I certainly agree that crime makes poverty worse.

 

Not punishing it is though.

 

Decriminalizing harm perpetrated on others is the worst thing that can be done. I agree we are going in the wrong direction on this point.

 

No. Only certain demographics of young males. You should read the study. It’s not referring to Harry Potter books.

We are seeing an increase in murder rates currently.

 

Yes. I had the interesting experience of chatting with the retired Colorado dept. of corrections officer that interviewed every incoming inmate for 25+ years. He said most were on first name basis as the revolving door was quite efficient at bringing folks back in.

His opinion was that if a kid didn’t “get it” by age 18 there was very little hope of turning things around later in life.

That’s why it all starts with parenting.

 

People who’ve been arrested for breaking the law are no longer being prosecuted? Do tell.

 

We are once again at the "Chicken and the Egg" impasse.

Does poverty lead to crime or does crime lead to poverty. Which came first?

What cannot be denied is that historically black people have gotten the short end of the stick in this country.

This has led to an ingrained situation where, just by virtue of being black, it is more difficult to get ahead. The cycle of poverty is difficult to break. Not impossible, but damn difficult. That's because being poor limits the options for self improvement. It doesn't erase them, but it does limit them.

So here you are a poor person in this country and you have a choice. Bust your ass twice as hard as someone born even to the middle class and MAYBE claw your way out of the cycle OR take a path that involves crime and make more money than you ever thought possible.

And since blacks are more likely to be IN the cycle of poverty they are the ones who face that choice more often.

 

That's right.

Read the Walmart closing in Portland article.

 

You of course know you haven’t supplied any evidence that crimes are no longer being prosecuted in the US. Did you really think you could claim no crimes at all are being prosecuted?

 

LoL now you want to claim "no crimes at all are being prosecuted".

Here.

Watch this instructional video. Maybe it will help you understand.

Watch when the criminals realize they're in Clackamas county instead of Multnomah.

They know they can get away with it in Portland. That's why they do it.

 

NOW? Hahahaha…reading is hard eh? YOU made a blanket statement about crimes not being punished. That is simply not true. Are SOME crimes not? Sure. But to imply none are is asinine. You made a lazy inaccurate claim and got called on it. Take it like a man…or not. Whatever.