Meet the growing number of immigrants warning Americans not to take the road to communism

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Free speech? Huh
     
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    Far from free speech. Teachers being fired for not calling someone by their preferred gender, teaching to hate our history and to change names of schools and knock down statues to further diminish our founding. To cancel some of histories greatest people for owning slaves. As if none of their other achievements are worth noting.

    again read the first article all the way through and not just the quote to fully understand her position on why she believes what she believesZ
     
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    In fact, no supporter of COVID policies, misinformation restrictions, CRT, and cancel culture can claim they give a crap about free speech. That’s actually laughable
     
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    For starters, we are not even on the road to communism, much less socialism in a manner that fits Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, etc.
     
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    That is not free speech, that is a violation of school policy. Violate school policy on anything and yes, you can get fired.

    The issue is whether or not that is an appropriate school policy or one that should be made. But that is a totally different argument outside the confines of "free speech." Students, teachers, administrators, and staff must adhere to the policy standards. Policy standards are what govern the school from discipline to subject matter to how one addresses a person even though they may "choose" a different gender or not be called by a particular pronoun.
     
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    There were antimaskers who went into stores demanding that employees and other customers take off their masks with some, well, let's just say, got too overenthusiastic over it and forced it off the person. That is not free speech either, is it. If soneonw was wearing a mask, minding their own business in a grocery store, why should be harrassed for doing so?



    https://globalnews.ca/news/8106884/anti-mask-protest-tennessee-school-board/

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/mask-harrassment-covid-pandemic-1.6519600

    Will you argue that harassment is free speech?
     
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    Good point. Seems there were militants on BOTH sides.
     
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    Go find them and post them. Good luck.
     
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    I don't care what a handful of random people have to say.
     
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    What would be advantages to communism?
     
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    What is communism?
     
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    You obviously know what communism is based on the posts below. Are you refusing to answer the question?

     
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    WhoDatPhan78 Banned

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    I do.

    I don't think you do though, so if I'm going to answer your question correctly, i need to know what you were talking about.

    Once the means of production is almost entirely automated, the economic system will evolve into communism. I don't need to do anything to make that happen.

    There certainly is no requirement that the government look anything like the ones we associate with communism today.
     
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    You’re over complicating things. You just needed to tell me what you believe are advantages to communism. What I may or may not believe regarding communism has no bearing on your beliefs.
    If you don’t want to tell me what you believe are advantages to communism just say so.
     
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    "Cancel culture" is a myth for the most part that has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment. CRT is, similarly, a nonsensical boogeyman. And private companies restricting misinformation on their own platforms is well within their own free speech rights -- it's their platform . . . if you oppose their right to do so then YOU are the one attacking the 1st Amendment.
     
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    Distribution of wealth. That is more important to me than anything else. I'm sure that isn't important to you, i'm not going to argue with you.

    Socialism and Communism are just natural progressions from Capitalism. The reason it fails is because people try to force it, it happens naturally. It is an unstoppable force.

    The US is as much socialist as it is capitalist today, the evolution is happening whether you like it or not.
     
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    Very funny! People from Malawi, Mozambique, Niger, Liberia and some other countries can also warn Americans of danger of capitalism, showing how communism China improved the life of millions Chines.

    I think capitalism is much better than communism, but right wing propaganda is getting better and better. The fact that Trump who lost 2020 elections and tried to be president by force is today the most popular GOP presidential candidate is not a good sign for America. I don't see any signs America is walking toward communism, but I see many signs America is marching toward undemocratic regime.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Comparing tactics used to push to CRT with tactics to make 2020 elections loser the US president is is like comparing President Trump hair with a lions mane.
     
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    Not as many support Trump as you would think. I’m Adamantly opposed to Trump. Probably not for the same reasons you are but fairly close I would believe.
     
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    T this point the Democratic party doesn't seem to be seeking textbook socialism, or government ownership of the means of production, but they certainly are the advocates of a bigger and more controlling central government.
     
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    You need to keep your opinions in the oven longer, cause they didn't bake enough bruh.
     
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    So are the republicans, It is simply a question of where and to whom it applies.
     
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    Must have hit the wrong timer button
     
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    COVID was exactly what government ownership of means of production to a T. Let’s not forget what states were threatening to shut off gas and water to businesses that would not comply with their orders to stop the production of their services.
     
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    And did govt then take over the production of these companies?
     

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