Trump to 'Dismantle Deep State' with 'Truth and Reconciliation Commission'

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  1. notme

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    He ran that place for 4 years, and at no point was somebody named or brought forward as a member of the "deep state".
    The dude sounds more and more like kanye west.
     
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    Truly sickening to see Trump use these terms. The Truth and Reconciliation in South Africa was to look into, acknowledge and offer reparations to people who were beaten, jailed, and killed during a brutal apartheid government. The Truth and Reconciliation in Canada was to address the Inuit and Native American population that was ripped from their homes, forced to give up their language, and often brutally abused in boarding houses.
    Disgusting.
    Stolen valor victimisation at its worst.
     
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    I don't even know how to interpret this. Is this a joke (in which case smilies would help)? If not, could you give us a bit more detail about this deep state internship? Was it advertised as such? What was it? Secret handshakes? Since this must have been at least 40 years ago, when no one even had heard of the term deep state, what were the signs, and how were you the only one to recognise that you were facing seep state job offer.
    Really curious.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, "nothing." Except for what was discovered & revealed by the J6 Committee. Plus, what had been reported at the time, like his leaning on officials, to "find votes." And what Trump did, out in the open, like his baseless allegations of voter fraud.


    What is frightening, is that anyone still trusts Trump, for the truth. This is merely a propagandistic name, to disguise the true intent. As noted by others, it is the kind of thing which authoritarian systems do. It is government censorship-- which I sure is something you're against, when you accuse the left of being behind it-- but at a scary level. A rewriting of facts. Think "Doublethink," from George Orwell's 1984.


    All he may need, will be a couple of state legislatures/Governors, to throw out their citizens' vote totals. It seems like a great affront, but so have been their complete outlawing of abortion, in numerous states. If their state system is designed so that Republicans are assured to stay installed as being in charge, even if they get a minority of the vote, and those voters have so little regard for democracy, that they support this, if it means that their guy wins the election, it does not seem beyond belief, this could happen.
     
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    I didn't pick up on the frailty-- he seemed his usual self, only brasher and less restrained. He literally said that the only "faceless bureaucrats" he wanted to purge from government, were those who attack Conservatives, Christians, and the Enemies of the Left. IOW, Trump is coming right out and elevating any attackers of "the Left," to the same position as conservatives & Christians, who will be the only ones, upon whom, attacks will not be tolerated. He is declaring a war, against the ideology of Americans who disagree with him. It is a total betrayal of our nation's ideals, and yet a large portion of the population, is all for it. A very sad commentary. "Dystopian," was the right word.
     
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    Obviously so as the years old allegation of crimes and investigations lead to nothing like all the other alleged Trump crimes.
    AND we now know with Hunters laptop that what he did with Ukraine was perfectly legitimate and his duty as president to do. AND nothing was "judged illegal". We were giving Ukraine millions in aid at the time and their government was corrupt as hell. Eliminating the corruption is to the benefit of the US and Ukraine. Hunters involvement in that corruption doesnt change that fact.
     
  7. Egoboy

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    Ooops

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/16/trump-administration-broke-law-in-withholding-ukraine-aid.html
     
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    Yes, you should have..

    If nothing was judged criminally illegal and you were speaking of alleged Trump Crimes, you should stop mentioning Ukraine, shouldn't you?

    He was impeached (first time) for abuse of Presidential Power (and obstruction) and he was clearly guilty of those charges...
     
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    I'm not feeling confident that the Democrats would beat him again should he win the nomination.. Especially if they run Biden. Unless a miracle happens, Biden's approval ratings will continue to tank.
     
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    Today's anti-Trump brigade doesn't seem to know the meaning of the words, "alleged crimes".
    They never seem to want to show their work.
    Well, I wouldn't either if I were still batting zero.
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    No, "They" accused Trump of several different crimes even though the actual impeachment only accused him of obstructing Congress, which is a crime.

    Actually he was acquitted on obstruction and he was acquitted of abuse of Presidential power. Biden abused Presidential power in every instance the courts have ruled against actions of the Biden administration.
     
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  13. Egoboy

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    You really don't know what you are talking about...

    https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres755/BILLS-116hres755enr.pdf

    I'm done wasting my time on this particular conversation...
     
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    They didnt discover any illegality.

    Nothing illegal about trying to "find votes" or making allegations of voter fraud.
     
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    No. Who?
     
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    Trump to 'Dismantle Deep State' with 'Truth and Reconciliation Commission'

    That, needs translation: "TRaitor tRump to Dismantle These United States with his "Butt-hurt Commission".

    And make no mistake about it, that will be his goal if he were to be reelected President.
     
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    Again, you are making the Hilary mistake here. But that is also pure irony.

    for the evidence, nothing has come of Biden's laptop in over 5 years. So, what's that excuse?

    For the classified documents, they had a search warrant and other things. He lost his court battle to try to get them "reclassified" as personal documents. For the hush money, that remians to be seen, even with the classified documents. The January 6th commission pretty much showed it was an organized effort among extremist groups, certain politicians, and so forth, all because of the big lie, and some 600 people will say otherwise after they either pled guilty or were found guilty by their peers.
     
  19. Polydectes

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    At least he doesn't slur his words.
    Dealing with corruption in the FISA court is a great thing. I'll vote for him on that issue alone.
     
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    The deep state corruption isn't these United States it's a blight in it.

    Why are people so desperate to protect this crap?
    No better campaign message than that. People that want state authoritarianism are upset? Oh dear.
     
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    Cool
     
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    Why are tRaitor tRump supporters "so desperate" to protect this drug addicted, narcissistic, psychotic, megalomaniac?

    No better reason to turn your backs on this phony than that, if you're afraid of an autocratic authoritarian, you should be VERY afraid of Donald Judas tRump.
     
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    I'm not trying to protect Joe Biden.
    But but the guy trying to eliminate constitutional rights through E.O.?

    Not the guy who tried to force Americans to take an experimental drug and threatened us with death if we didn't?
     
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    Your post is a perfect example of the rights desperation to whitewash and obfuscate tRaitor tRumps faults and, it does it by applying tRaitor tRumps faults to President Biden unfailingly and with a dedication tRaitor tRump is unworthy of.
     
  25. Polydectes

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    I'm not a leftist. I don't care about your personality problems with the guy makes him more appealing.

    Putting a middle finger up in the face of authoritarians to the point where it pisses him off with that they make cutesy little pet names for things they don't like it's hilarious.
     

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