Nashville Police Reveal Why Trans Shooter Didn't Attack First Planned Target

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Never said it did. Just that where she shot at was in the lower school, or elementary school. It wasn't just a elementary school that the OP stated. Hence the minor correction.
     
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    Good idea.
     
  3. Alwayssa

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    Only control what you can control. I can't explain why some people want to blame all gun owners no more than I can explain the posters who want to blame All Trans people for this shooting.

    My own take is our attitude. We have an obsession, some say an unhealthy obsession with firearms. That does not mean banning them or severely restricting them, but it does means trying to find the balance between preventing people who should not have firearms, such as convicted felons, and persons who want to have firearms for whatever reason. What that balance is, no one is goingn to agree right now because of lobbying.
     
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    Anytime you purchase a new vehicle from a dealership, and your motorcycle place is designated a dealership, you have 30 days to obtain new insurance for the mortocycle or apply to your existing insurance. that is the leeway that states give. But after 30 days, that vehicle must have proof of liability at the very minimum per state regs or risk a traffic violation and impoundment, in some states, of that vehicle.

    And yes, they gave you a tag. but a tag is not ownership. The dealership will do that for you as part of their service, send it in to the state, and you will receive confirmation within 6 weeks or so, and it is part of the "fees" you pay for the motorcycle price plus any financing charges if you are financing the motorcycle through the dealership or through third parties. That is why look at the fine print and see what all they are doing and paying for just to make sure everything is kosher.

    Texas is going to make it more difficult now to obtain a temporary license plate. No longer, if it passes the senate and signed by the governor, will discontinue paper license plates altogether. And that god for that.
     
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    God forbid some idiots in Australia, "in the name of freedom" shoot up traditional public and private schools like what happens in the US almost on a daily basis. But Australia has also banned assault firearms and the bureaucracy, from what I have read, is that of England's bureaucracy. Most Australians don't need a firearm, just a knife to protect themselves, or give them a few dozen pints and they will forget all about you and pass out a tt he pub.
     
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    Au contraire.... In the State of Florida you are not required to have motorcycle insurance if you were a helmet.

    If you do have insurance you can go without a helmet. And I think it's kind of stupid to do both of those things because I got full coverage on my bike for $260 for a full year and I do wear a helmet even though I have the insurance.
     
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    So you had to register your vehicle every year?
     
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    We can renew our plates for 1-2-5-10 years.
     
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    Nothing 'fake' about my statement. This OP was about school security, but you wanted it to be about her trans status. In fact, a quick google search reveals that all Right wing news is far more upset about the shooter than the three dead children and three dead adults. But hey, carry on!
     
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    what is your evidence of "fascination with armament" vs the left's fascination with making things safer for violent criminals while harassing honest gun owners for voting the way the left hates?
     
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    and the left only cares about dead children as far as they can use the blood of innocents to smear gun ownership and gun owners.
     
  12. balancing act

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    So if registering a vehicle is no big deal, why is it so ridiculous to have a national firearm registry?
     
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    Because it's against federal law for one thing and for another thing you can ask that question to every citizen around the world who has ever had the government confiscate their guns for no good reason.

    If this is the comparison you wish to draw do you want the government banning certain people from owning vehicles?
     
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    Thanks for your kind answer!
    My opinion is that your confiscation reason is not realistic. The government won't confiscate your firearms. The logistics alone would be ridiculous. If the government wanted to "take over" they wouldn't need to confiscate firearms.
    And why would they? They have it made now as it is. A national gun registry would enable them to have a better control the problem of keeping guns out of the wrong hands, which is by far the biggest problem for all of us, including gun owners. Keeping guns from gangbangers and nutjobs would help tremedously, or head off mass shootings. The benefits far outweigh the negatives, imo, for everyone.
    As far as the banning vehicles question, they already do ban certain vehicles, there's actually a lot of restrictions, and they do keep some from driving for a variety of reasons.
    Using that analogy, they shouldn't have dui laws.
    Why take away my driving priviledges when I didn't hurt anyone or cause an accident? And most people rely on driving way more than gun ownership.
    A national registry makes sense, more than assault weapon bans or "see something, say something", and preserves the right of ownership.
     
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    They are barbaric and regressive and not a good example

    They pay lip service to human rights such as freedom of speech ewhich they violate..
     
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    I am telling you and reality proves you wrong

    You know this is true
     
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    I think it's funny that gun owners always bring up the comparison with cars yet when suggested that the same requirements for car ownership and use should apply to gun ownership they run away from the comparison and go to their fall back position, it's a right, ignoring the fact that those rights are not set in stone
     
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    Why take away my gun RIGHTS if I didn't criminally misuse a firearm or cause a firearm accident?

    There is no reason to keep a federal firearms registry except for to keep tabs on legal gun owners.

    That will do absolutely zero to keep guns out of the hands of bad guys who already ignore the laws.

    Driving on public road is a privilege while owning guns is a right.

    That is a fundamental difference that people who want to make this comparison often fail to realize
     
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    You must be ignoring my post because I asked people like you if certain people should be banned from car ownership?

    And I don't mean because you have traffic offenses I mean because you're a prohibited person like those who are prohibited from owning firearms which are three classes of people and that has nothing to do with traffic offenses.

    Are you cool with that? Felons lose their right to drive forever. Known substance abusers lose their right to drive forever and those adjudicated mentally unfit by the courts of law lose their right to drive forever even though they may or may not have ever had a traffic offense?

    Here's your chance not to run away from the comparison.

    And remember that operating a vehicle on a public street is a privilege and not a right like gun ownership is
     
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    Lol

    I wrote "they run away from the comparison and go to their fall back position, it's a right, ignoring the fact that those rights are not set in stone

    And, to answer your question, yes, make the same rules apply to both guns and cars
     
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    If we start assigning security guards to schools and the number of these incidents decreases that's a problem for gun control advocates because then it indicates we don't need gun control they would rather see more of these incidents happen and do anything to stop it outside of gun control.


    I hate to think that it's that evil and that self-centered but every single time something like this happens they always go back to the same schtick.

    It's like those people that think the government is controlling your mind with GMOs.
     
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    Reality is she chose the school because it's a softer Target. And it's a softer Target because of strict gun control.
     
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    Straight relationships are so complicated I don't know why I ever wanted to be one of you.
     
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    Other teachers in that school said that two of the teachers did carry a gun
     
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    Yeah, let's do that again...
    The shooting ended as quickly as men with guns could put sights on target.
     
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