Texas advances bill requiring 10 Commandments to be displayed in public school classrooms

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    It is, which is why I preferenced by opinion in which the schools should not be required to teach it or provide religious instruction in a mandatory capacity in public schools.
     
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    forcing the 10 commandments be posted in every school is the same thing

    how about we force the Flying Spaghetti monster's ten commandments right next to it

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    But we have the ten commandments on the Supreme Court Building, and the Court has put forth tests in which he can be displayed publicly if it is secular in nature for historical perspectives. But it will be challenged if it is signed into law as well. And the way this bill is read is similar in the "In God We Trust" signs that can be donated to schools, generally. And the irony is that for you, if you were a student, should be accommodated reasonably so that you don't need to look at the image in any way whatsoever and not be called out on it, all for "religious liberty." It is just the religious nuts don't want that in my state, unfortunately.

    The more I think about this issue and what the legislature is doing is using this more as a distraction of the bills the state legislature really wants to pass so that the voting electorate is distracted.
     
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    heck no it wouldn’t be acceptable, but that’s because Christianity is the truth.

    I can’t prove it, but I know it’s true.

    as a conservative Texan, I don’t want this signed.
     
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    they should not be, and no one is buying that it's not for religious reasons
     
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    YUP... some people can't be happy if they win the lottery. This whole deal is making a mountain out of a mole hill.... much ado about nothing. I wish had nothing of importance to worry about so I could worry about this flyspeck.
     
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    Again, what you are “not interested in” are views counter to yours. The idea that you may be wrong upsets you.
     
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    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    Sure you can. Provide a link to someone saying that climate change has caused hurricanes.
     
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    Incorrect I very much like hearing views different than my own that's why I'm here. I don't really care for programmed responses and that's pretty much what everyone does in climate nonsense.

    If like to hear your views not what people told you to think.
     
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    Why?
     
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    The 10 commandments were handed down to Moses, a devout Jew and well before Jesus was a twinkle in God's eye.
     
  12. Alwayssa

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    With GOP, yes, it is trying to put Christianity back into public schools, mostly to satisfy the political Christian Evangelicals who think this should "be a Christian Nation" while using "Biblical Citizenship." I was conned two years ago to take that class. It is free, mostly, except for the book at $14, but it is written and produced by David Barton who pretty much gets everything wrong about the Founding Fathers and the reasons why we have the US Constitution. But nevertheless, it is being used mostly as a distraction for most people.
     
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    Here is something interesting, both the Ten Commandments and the code of Hammurabi are very similar in that both attempted to put down a permanent set of "rules" in which to govern social order in their time. It is probably where the Ten Commandments came from. But from the book of the Torah or the Book of the Covenant, there are quite literally 600 plus commandments to deal with including the infamous Ten Commandments.

    https://homework.study.com/explanat...lanation:,divine instruction as their sources.
     
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    Since we are not a homogeneous society, the question is whose religion? Remember, Christians, or some of them, get upset because people of the Muslim faith have a separate room for prayer while Christians believe they can't pray at all. The problem with his argument is that the room has been set aside for private prayer while Christians want to do this publicly. No one is stopping you to say a prayer quietly before you eat your meal at lunch or before you will get a test, but that seems to fly over the head of some Christians. And then you have Buddhists, Atheists, Agnostic, Hindu, Sikh, and others. So, should we also put those religious texts and their wisdom on display too, or is religious liberty means that it is for Christians only?
     
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    No it isn't, I gave you a link that shows at least 3 separate versions of the Ten Commandments
     
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    My personal opinion is they are over shooting with this one. As some other poster mentioned, it would most likely be fine without a religious aspect as things like "not killing" and "not stealing" are pretty much PEOPLE law. I don't think they should be pushing stuff like this, although I've seen worse things, like drag queen burlesque shows and twerking lessons for elementary school kids.
     
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    No, we don't.

    We have Moses holding tablets with the Roman Numerals 1 through 10. The Commandments themselves are not on there.
    Furthermore Moses is just part of a display about the "Great Lawgivers of History" the same frieze also contains Hammurabi, Confucius, Mohammad and Napoleon among others.
     
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    I'd call this over correction. Its evil what Leftists are trying to do, but this is just going as far as Democrats go, but in the opposite and equally stupid direction. Why? Just why? Honestly, there isn't that much any logical person can disagree with when it comes to the 10 Commandements as a whole. The first 3 are obviously religious, with 4 just being a day of rest and relaxation, which makes sense. Who's against just having a common shared day of rest, really? 5-10 are just about basic human decency. Hard to argue against those.

    And lets be honest here...when most of the country took these to heart, we were a more unified and better place overall. NOT perfect, but better overall as a society. I'll take 5-10 over the current trend of "Thou shall do whatever makes you feel "good", no matter the consequences to yourself and those around you...and if something goes wrong, BLAME everyone else!"
     
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    Question; In Texas, are Adult Entertainment Clubs, Liquor stores, Bars, and Casinos open on Sunday?

    Reason my asking;

    4th Commandment; Remember the Sabbath Day, and keep it holy.
     
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    That is based on the Latin Bible from the 5th century AD and its illustrators who were monks at that time. In Jewish Tadition, they are not numbered at all. Numbering is something where they start with the number 2 most of the time.

    what most Americans get with the Ten Commandments is the 1956 Movie starring Yul Brenner, Charleston Heston, and others.
     
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    The Ten Commandments have no place in a public school room.
    Having said that I agree that there are some shared values in those commandments and I have no problem promoting the ones that are about "basic human decency", it doesn't need the religious baggage to go with it.
    But part of that "basic human decency" are things that Republicans actively work against. Equal rights for LGBTQ people, a greater social safety net including "medicare for all", a safer society by limiting the number of guns out there.
    I agree it's hard to argue against basic human decency but Republicans find a way to do it.
     
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    Generally yes, unless the county is dry, and there are few in that in Texas now. I know liquor stores are closed, by statute, on New Year's Day, Christmas, and Easter. Most restaurants and bars are closed on Christmas and Easter. Adult Entertainment Clubs are open but must identify clearly that they are adult entertainment clubs. You can tell that by the name of the club in most cases. We don't allow casinos in Texas. The nearest is in Oklahoma in the Choctaw Nation. We do have lottery sales and they can be purchased 24/7/365 cash only. No debit or credit cards are accepted.

    We have three indian reservations, the Alabama-Coushatta, Tigua, and Kickapoo. Tigua is located near El Paso, The Kickapoo is located near Eagle Pass on the Texas-Mexican border, and the Alabama is in East Texas. None have casinos Bingo Parlor is located in Tigua and that is it.
     
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    What's good for one is good for all when it comes to the constitution and federal monies.

    Atheists unveil monument next to Ten Commandments at Florida courthouse. STARKE, Fla. — A group of atheists unveiled a monument to their nonbelief in God on Saturday to sit alongside a granite slab that lists the Ten Commandments in front of the Bradford County courthouse.Jun 29, 2013

    Atheists unveil monument next to Ten Commandments at ...

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    Court orders Ten Commandments removed from Dixie courthouse
    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Officials in a rural north Florida county must remove a granite monument of the Ten Commandments from the front of its courthouse because it violates the constitution, a federal judge has ruled.

    Court orders Ten Commandments removed from Dixie ...

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    Interesting, but it does not bother me one bit and is perfectly legal IMO.
     
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    And then there's ole' Roy

    Alabama Supreme Court chief justice Roy Moore stirred controversy in 2001 by displaying a religious monument that included the Ten Commandments in the state's court building in Montgomery. In 2003, the Alabama Court of the Judiciary ordered the monument removed and terminated Moore's term in office.

    Moore, Roy - Encyclopedia of Alabama
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