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Court tosses Trump suit against NYT, orders him to pay attorney fees

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  1. Nemesis

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/03/nyregion/donald-trump-new-york-times-lawsuit.html

    A New York judge dismissed former President Donald J. Trump’s lawsuit against The New York Times on Wednesday, saying the newspaper’s Pulitzer Prize-winning investigation into his finances was clearly protected by the First Amendment.

    When Mr. Trump filed the lawsuit in 2021, he accused the paper and three of its reporters of conspiring in an “insidious plot” with his estranged niece, Mary L. Trump, to improperly obtain his confidential tax records for a series of stories published in 2018.

    In a ruling filed on Wednesday afternoon, Justice Robert R. Reed of State Supreme Court in Manhattan wrote that Mr. Trump’s claims against his niece, The Times and its reporters “fail as a matter of constitutional law.”

    “Courts have long recognized that reporters are entitled to engage in legal and ordinary news-gathering activities without fear of tort liability — as these actions are at the very core of protected first amendment activity,” Justice Reed wrote.


    The judge also ordered Mr. Trump to pay legal expenses and associated costs for The Times and its reporters, Susanne Craig, David Barstow and Russ Buettner.

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    “The New York Times is pleased with the judge’s decision today,” said Charlie Stadtlander, a spokesman for the company. “It is an important precedent reaffirming that the press is protected when it engages in routine news gathering to obtain information of vital importance to the public.
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    So the Hunter Biden lawsuit against the computer repair guy and various others should be dismissed?
     
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    Huh? What does that have to do with the Trump defamation case?
     
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    Quick! Look over there!
     
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    Are you going to provide us with enough information so we can decide for ourselves whether the judge's decision was the correct one?

    I personally am all for freedom of speech to weigh more heavily than concerns about defamation and slander, but there are going to be some unfair problematic double standards if it is applied differently towards one political side than another.

    We all know that most of the political elites in New York really do not like Trump.
     
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    You could, maybe, look it up yourself?

    Besides, how are you going to decide that?
     
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    Do you care about right and wrong, or only about wins and losses?

    Because right now, I'm really suspecting the latter.
     
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    I care about the rule of law. You don't recklessly sue a newspaper fro "defamation" when all they're doing is reporting the news. Trump tried to have a court ignore Constitutional standards, and lost.

    Besides, LOOK IT UP.
     
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    , absent proof to the cont

    At this point, absent more evidence, the working presumption should be that there was no fair hearing. Just more routine kangaroo justice.
     
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    Huh? You just assume poor Donnie doesn't have access to his own lawyers and the poor man was not allowed to make his case? He had a **** case. The 1st Amendment allows the press to do its job in the absence of actual malice. (eg, a la Fox News)
     
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    That's rich coming from a tRumper.
     
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    LOL

    Better luck next time, assh*le :thumbsup: :flagus:
     
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    First amendment.
     
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    Do you believe there isa right to privacyand that your personal tax returns are private information and no one should beable to read them and put them out in public without your permission?
     
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    What more malice did Fox News engage in and against whom.
    What happened to the right to privacy?
     
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    Defense lawyers are irrelevant in kangaroo justice system. Surely you know that.
     
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    This isn't Russia. We don't do "kangaroo justice."
     
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    Thread derailment on the second post AKA desperation.
    Truth!
     
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    Faux Snooze knowingly lied about Dominion. Good God, dude. Haven't you paid any attention at all?! And what does "privacy" have to with it?
     
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    Don't understand this post.
     
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    When did the first amendment cover theft?
     
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    No worries . The Trump sheep will foot the bill.
    Not a dime out of the Orange Stain.

    Good thing , too. He’s got a negative net worth.
     
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    There was no theft. Go read up on it.
     
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