Starks man accused of shooting 14-year-old girl in back of head as she was playing hide-and-seek

FYI, the man who just did the TX mall shooting, if the Army had passed that info, and the person who sold/gave the weapon to him, we could have caught that before the incident.

If the proper and actionable info is there, a better procedure can be implemented.

That's a start.

 

The question in 11f, Form 4473, is with regard to being adjudicated mentally defective or committed to a mental institution. If neither of those things happened related to his discharge he wouldn't come up as a "deny".
Likewise, the 11g question with regard to military discharge only applies to those dishonorably discharged. Being discharged for medical reasons, again, would not cause a "deny".

 

Then maybe we should review that process, because in this case, that missing info would have been useful.

 

What would you like to review? Are you suggesting that we should on demand competency hearings for everybody? I mean, seriously, how would you implement a more rigorous test without egregiously violating the 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments for the express purpose of violating the 2nd Amendment?

 

Real simple then: If the military discharges someone on a section 8 or similar, they are required to mandatorily refer them for a psych evaluation. Your basic baker act 3 day hold with testing and action if tests come up positive should do.

This is best because it only requires a military policy change, won't require legislation etc

 

I'm saying doing nothing is not the solution and I gave an overview of what might be done. Your suggestion that it becomes a constitutional issue is bogus, let alone making obtuse scenarios.

 

Great. The military, prior to discharge, orders an evaluation for the individual and the findings are that the individual isn't cut out for military duty. That validates the decision to discharge but it doesn't mean that the individual couldn't reasonably perform successfully in the private sector.

I'll give you this, if someone looking to get out makes statements surrounding suicide or homicide then they should be evaluated along those lines with regard to life in general, not just the military. The reality of the situation, however, is that it isn't the least bit uncommon for someone in BMT that doesn't want to be there after a few weeks or months to make such a claim just because they figure it's an easy way out.

I have no idea if someone saying, "I'll commit suicide" to get out of basic training equates to "a danger to themself or others" and if it does, then great, they go on the list until someone says they can come off the list.

 

Can't believe I haven't seen anybody mention it was 1:00 a.m. in the morning.
These houses are not very close together.
Somebody on your property by your house at 1:00 a.m. in the morning is a threat.

 

Its not uncommon because there isn't much of a problem with it. No consequences. Free ripcord.
If you had to get baker acted for 3 days and psych evaled to have it, magically you'd find the shirkers finding another way to get out. Like injuring themselves or falling pregnant.

 

Yes it is.

 

LOL

When you have to edit out the part that shows how you're wrong, you know you should just quit.

Thanks for playing.

 

I didn't. I ignored the lame excuse making crap.