Do you support reparations for blacks?

As I understand it German reparations for the Holocaust go to people who are actual survivors of it. Perhaps it really isn't a good idea, moving wealth from people who have done no wrong to people who have never been harmed.

You are making no sense here.

 

that's not proof that any person or family actually owned slaves. the real blame for slavery comes from the area that captured and sold slaves and that is black Africa

 

WTH is any of this in reference to?

 

Actually German reparations go to ppl whose parents survived it, or didn't survive. So Germany are setting an interesting precedent. Perhaps America could learn alot or maybe the faces are thewrong colour

 

Is this supposed to convey meaning? Because it's failing.

 

You're the one who mention Liberia and unicorns

 

Yes, the message is, don't follow poop holes cuz you'll only get dirty.

 

think you should be more concerned about your own history rather than another's. Point fingers and there are twice as many pointing back.

But that's just me, I like to take agency with my own government rather than look to blame someone else's, that's just the way I was raised, to not be a finger pointer and be a man rather than a mouse and understand that my own elected government is the perpetrators and it's my fault for voting them in.

 

Great point. Corporate taxes are just another way to get taxes from the poor. It is just added on to goods they buy. Another form of taxing the poor is lottery tickets. Many buy them hoping to get rich.

 

Yes, cling to your right-wing conspiracy theory, that makes everything right with the world. That means 90% plus of African Americans are ignorant dupes with no knowledge of history. No, that’s not racist or ignorant.

It's never been tried? There was something called the 19th century, where people did starve and die from lack of medical care....it's been tried for centuries. It is inefficient and doesn't work. Your ideological rationalizations are ignoring reality and mean spirited. You made Jesus sad.

 

tell me, has the lot of African Americans improved since they started becoming minions of the DNC? I think the poverty pimps who claim to speak for them have.

 

Edna Kawabata pretends to know something about Jesus.

 

You know, in 1960 55% of Blacks lived in poverty, now 55% are middle class and above. African Americans have a voice in how they are governed in the Democratic party, they don't in the GOP. Racist conspiracy theory says Blacks are ignorant fools falling for the party and the holders of this theory do not want to look at the social progress actually made, just the negative, because that is how racism works.

Edna Kawabata seems to know something about Jesus that you don't.

 

the real racism is claiming blacks aren't smart enough to get into top schools without lowered standards for admission.

 

Right-wingers are the only ones claiming that. So, Clarence Thomas wasn't smart enough to go to Yale?

 

A couple questions for you;
My DNA shows me as a mutt of which I register 2/1/2 % Native American. and 3% African ancestry. At what % would I be considered Native American or black. What % of reparations would. I be due and if not 3% then why? And how would reparation recipients be determined? Is the determination based on skin color? In which case the Idea of reparation will not pass Constitutional review.
What is the empirical criteria for determining race ? Any % of determining DNA? If so, what does that mean to every human having common African DNA markers from our species’s origins from Africa?
A question, I am sure you will consider racist, but I will ask anyway; are dependents of slaves in the US or of the dependents of those in Africa of those not subjected slavery have better lives? I don’t deny the injustice of slavery, but ask this question anyway.
Rather than reparations, why not allow blacks to own White slaves. Where is justice? What would and did MLK say?
I was raised Roman Catholic in Belfast Ireland in a system of selective Priceline and justice. In 1968, I joined the Northern Ireland Civil Rights association, the NICRA. Considered a rebel and accused of being IRA ( I was not), At age 13 I was arrested, torture and imprisoned at the Long Kesh concentration camp under the open statute of the time, as being incarcerated at Her Majesty’s Pleasure, meaning I could be held indefinitely without being charged with a specific crime. in those days there was massive discrimination in jokes, housing and privilege%. ThE NICRA didn’t argue for reparations, but following the example of MLK argued for an end of institutionalized discrimination, a struggle that still is progressing AND OF WHICH I am still involved. I have participated in fighting discrimination in Ireland, the US, Guatemala all my life (still), sometimes risking my physical life (been shot twice.. Ireland and Guatemala.
I argue for an absolute end of institutional discriminatory policies and Laws (even gender based) everywhere and still advocate for equality under law. I can’t pretend that racism or ethnicism can be erased from human consciousness.I do argue for any government policies or laws that are based on skin color or ethnicity. In my view, nothing can erase the injustice of the past, it can be prevented in the future; the idea of reparations , while well meant, at i’s core promotes a reverse racism, that will propagate racism and further the divide of people.
To mitigate economic disparities in this country, there are better solution, including the one I have been working to raise awareness on which is the movement to end the digital divide (would take a separate OP to explain), which is designed to provide improved economic opportunity to all, regardless of race or ethnicity.
Promise everything to get votes and deliver nothing… it’s the normal operating procedure of the Democratic Party.
Always amuses me that the party of slavery and resistance to Civil rights in law has managed to convincing it’s supporter that the Republican Party, theParty created to end slavery and that pushed through civil Rights in the 60’s is somehow now the bad guy.. n am ing trick if you think on it.
Reminds me of the line from in the movie, The Usual Suspects, the greatest trick, the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn’t exit.
I look forward to a response.

 

Regarding Reparations and the continuing of the ?democratic Party’s ongoing push to exploit and propagate tribalism, hate and the increasing divide between Americans…. One word….STOP.

 

So you are saying the only race in the US to suffer segregation, systemic as well as social racism, prevented from owning property, prevented from having basic civil rights and prevented from gaining political power for 100 years after Emancipation aren't owed anything because it propagates "tribalism"?

 

what sort of this revisionist nonsense is this? And remind me how blacks in the USA are doing compared to ones in the places where other blacks sold them into slavery? We whites don't owe American blacks a dime in reparations. And those of us whose ancestors fought to free the slaves-hell, they OWE US

 

Specially what nonsense did I "revise"? African American are Americans you need to compare them to other Americans or don't you consider them American enough? Whites deserve reparations from Blacks? Is it time for that Aricept refill?

 

no one is entitled to reparations based on group membership

 

Rather than focus on who the victims were we should focus on who the perpetrators were, build up a fund and then distribute. DNA does not seem like a good and family records is the only way imo.

Funnily, reparations is not really discussed in the black community if I'm not mistaken but the subject you mention, white slavery is. Perhaps not in our lifetime but this seems like the most just. How that would work is subject, I'd like to think that anybody who disagrees with reparations would have to forfeit. White women might not be as objectionable as white males

 

No problem is solved with a reparations check that I can identify. No healing happens with a reparations check that I can see. No justice is imparted with a reparations check that I can find.

When you ask proponents what this is supposed to accomplish? They talk about the evils of slavery, the lingering after-effects of it on society and systemic racism.

All I see is a migraine sized headache for policy makers, more divisive debates about everything associated with this program, and a heck of a chunk of tax dollars wasted in continued animus, frustration and recriminations.

 

White slavers. already received cash payment. Maybe you should do some research on the subject.

Let's say that in 100 years (hypothetical ) black folk control USA. Would you prefer to pay reparations or go into slavery [as the Bible predicts- revelation 13:19]?

 

If I had wheels I could be a trolley car. winners don't sit around whining that others owe them something. Losers do. when you find a "white slaver" let me know-you still seem unable to comprehend that the blacks sold in the Atlantic slave trade were captured and sold by other blacks