What is the Republican plan to fight racism?

The guy might be one of the great sell-outs of all time. While he was busy handing everything over to the banks, his rhetoric was racist and incredibly divisive [giving cover to his support for the corporate state].

Look at Obamacare as a perfect example. This was the worst thing that could have happened.

 

I wish. Like many of us in our early 20's, I was blinded by love and believed that people [if given the opportunity] do the right thing.

 

agree, he never should of sold out to republicans, they were never gonna vote for it no matter what

"Obama, GOP's Snowe work on health care compromise"

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/02/health.care.compromise/

"The compromise plan would lack a government-run public health insurance option favored by Obama, but would leave the door open to adding that provision down the road under an idea proposed by Snowe, the sources said."

republicans got there way on that one, we have the individual mandate, rather then Obama's public option....

 

A major decision and yet you ignored merit, as I said there are other considerations besides merit.

 

You misunderstood. Obviously there are other considerations besides merit, but none of them should be considered except in extenuating circumstances [and certainly NEVER in employment].

 

The few people still alive who would have received it would be in their 80s by now, and many to most of them are deceased. It's been around for my entire life (and then some!) and I'm not exactly a spring chicken anymore. That doesn't sound too temporary to me. BTW, you don't have to be a racist to be pissed because someone that went to community college and had a 1.5GPA before they dropped out got the job that they, say a Harvard Grad who graduated Summa Cum Laude, did not simply because they were a straight white dude.

So, you think segregation is a good idea. It seems the black community agrees with you, decades (many) after practices like redlining were put to an end, they still tend to create mostly black neighborhoods, and I'm not referring to "The Hood", where it's dangerous to even go outside. Just a run of the mill middle class neighborhood that is almost all black due to choices made by the people who bought the homes there. You think it's true that attempting to mix races is a bad idea?

That's not a rhetorical question, for the record, it's something I've given thought to based on observations like the one I just outlined, and others, but I haven't decided what I think yet. I've lived in predominantly black areas, and visited them many times without incident. But, while their neighborhood is mostly to exclusively black, it's people who are a lot like me save for having more melanin.

 

I'm not at all convinced that the person known in present times as 'Jesus Christ' ever even existed, much less was some sort of supernatural superhuman who was the Executive Officer of the Big Guy himself, and in this context, I'm not talking about good ol' Joe. Given that I died in late 2017 or early 2018, but was revived, and remember parts of my preview of the afterlife, while I can tell you it is in fact a thing, it's not a christian thing.

People, most of us anyway, work very hard to accomplish some things. Some are pointless, others are not, but that doesn't matter. When you set about to accomplish anything (in my case, I literally put on my own pants the other day for the first time since I got hurt, which before that I considered, well, completely meaningless and just a part of life's minutiae, but now it's a very different story), and then do so, I see nothing wrong with being proud of yourself and whatever it is you accomplished. Your attitude does explain, however, part of the underlying current of this thread where merit has been ruled to be irrelevant as long as there is enough DE & I.

Before a few months ago, I thought DEI stood for Dale Earnhardt, Inc. Who knew?

 

Many black people hate black cops even more than they hate white cops. They are seen as sellouts and Uncle Toms by the black community.

 

Did you do a survey of the Black community or is that just a "gut" feeling or wishful thinking?

 

You can have all the "merit" in the world but compatibility or incompatibility may trump that even in employment.

I think its use is winding down with some companies being fully integrated, although there was a recent study that showed there has been no improvement in race based hiring in the last 20 years, that is whites chosen over Blacks with the same credentials.
Where did you get I think segregation is a good thing? Isn't self segregation what the white people did when they ran to the suburbs, after desegregation, leaving behind affordable housing to a population with 1/10 the wealth of whites? Middle class Blacks are moving to the burbs now and leaving all Black pockets of working class and poverty, that you fear. Is that self segregation?

 

personaly taking an inventory of yourself, its all thats needed, should be second nature for a real christian

 

Compatibility is merit.

 

Why someone might get the idea that you think segregation is a good thing.

 

I consider merit an objective evaluation of skills and compatibility a subjective evaluation of personality and values.

There you go again. Group members want to be with their fellow members now and then, but you only see a problem when those members are Black. Do you have a problem with bikers who want to go to their safe place clubs where they can talk about Harleys, guns and women without being judged as Neanderthals?

 

I don't have a problem with people wanting to be with the people they want to be with, but that was never the issue, it was about public institutions legally segregating by race; a position you supported.

 

I also wouldn't mind a university giving a "safe place" to LGPTQers if they want one and if you want to call me a segregationist, I can live with your opinion.

 

In the workplace, high compatibility = team player. Unless you work by yourself, compatibility is essential and quite objective [from the supervisors POV].

 

Well you are a segregationist by your own words. The point was that you earlier were trying to deny that you were.

 

Yeah. That would be one of those other circumstances I mentioned. I don't care how qualified someone is (another way of saying 'has merit'), if they're an a$$hole, they might not be the best pick. Of course, that will depend on the job. If they're, say, being hired to write code at home, and will only rarely have to interface with other humans, that particular example (though there are more) would not be an issue.

As there is no such thing as identically qualified candidates, such a scenario is impossible. Now, if someone can document that a less qualified white candidate got the job over the more qualified black candidate, that should be grounds for legal action. Of course, I think the same should be true if you reverse the words 'black' and 'white' in the preceding sentence. I seriously doubt that you do.

It's been more than long enough. Affirmative Action is an idea whose time, if it ever existed, has long since passed, and it should be done away with. Racism is racism, regardless of who is getting discriminated against, or in favor of.

I think that has been asked and answered, though I found your response less than... impressive. People with alternative views on sexuality (of which I am one, as my marriage is by mutual desire and consent, non-monogamous, and my wife is bisexual) wanting to be around each other is not the same as wanting to divide people based on the level of skin melanin. And, I'm sorry to say, if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander. If it is to be socially acceptable for blacks to self-segregate, then the same should be true for whites and all other races.

I don't know if that's what I would call 'white flight', but that happened long before I was born. I don't know if I've crossed the 50th percentile in age (meaning more people are younger than me than are older), but if not, I'm probably getting close, which means that it happened before many to most people alive today were alive. Once you further analyze that and limit it to the adult decision makers who did that, those people (the one's that are left) are in their 70s at the youngest, and most of them would be at least a decade older than that.

However, it has been my more recent observations that it is not whitey that is self-segregating, it tends to happen more in the black community. There are many, many mostly to exclusively black middle-class neighborhoods where the denizens could afford to move to many other, more desegregated locales, but... they don't. They clump together, by choice, which is precisely what your are accusing white folk in the 1960s with venom for having allegedly done the same back then. It sometimes makes me wonder why MLK even fought the fight he did, and why he lost his life, if blacks are just going to separate themselves from the rest of society and create their own little cities within a city, why bother?

They're not the only ones, many cities have a Chinatown, or a Little Italy, and so forth, but in many case those are first generation migrants (many of whom may not even be legal) who largely don't speak the language and want to recreate their home here. Why, I can't imagine, if that's what you want, why leave it? It's violating the number one fishing rule... Don't ever leave fish to find fish.

 

Well, I think it's fairly common knowledge that the police are not very well liked by the black community. But, I have not taken a survey. I did, however, witness with my own eyes and ears when I was in school that black kids who did well were ostracised by other blacks and called 'Uncle Tom', 'sellout', and even worse, and that sort of behavior was somewhere between enabled and encouraged. This despite the fact that doing well in school is a one-way ticket out of the poverty you spoke of. It ain't the white man holding blacks down, in many cases it's their fellow blacks and the Democratic party. They promise all kinds of things to America's blacks, never deliver a thing except more and more public money giveaways, and get 95% support.

 

95%995
The study was done with the same resumes but the names were given the impression that the person was Black or white.

Whites, other races and other groups self-segregate all the time but it seems racists have a problem with it when it is Blacks. Do people have a problem when Lithuanians, Cubans or lesbians self-segregating and going to their “safe spaces”?

Blacks have 1/10 the wealth of whites. It is cheaper to rent than buy a home. The family home, when owned, is difficult to move from if you’re not upwardly mobile. A neighborhood of a like culture is reassuring. So why is a Black neighborhood a bad thing?

Imposed segregation is a bad thing.
San Francisco Chinatown has been around over a century.

Yes there are bullies and the jealous in every culture. Some more popular current terms are acting ghetto or being bougie. I don't know that you (or I) know how "uncle Tom" or "sellout" is currently charting, but I think not well.
And what has the GOP delivered? Blacks are members of the Democratic party with power in it....95%? what does that mean?

 

No, you really didn't.

 

Sweet it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist.

 

What did you find inadequate from my response?

 

The user asked if you had a problem with obtaining the perspective on Republicans and their plan to fight racism, you didn't actually answer the question.