If the Government Has UFO Crash Materials, It’s Time to Reveal Them

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  1. Space_Time

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    But will they? Some whistleblowers have just come forward. Will this be anything much different:
     
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    Well, apparently they just found some new specie prior to humans that buried their dead with lots of symbols so I would say there is a lot being held back from the public.
     
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    I don't think that was held back, just recently published as it's hard to prove and the cave was hard to access. And they're fairly human-like, just one of the many almost-humans that we killed or outcompeted, probably.
     
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    All this recent UFO talk is meant to distract people from how bad the Biden administration is doing. And it's not helping anything.
     
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    The recent UFO talk has been going on for five years.

    This has been a gradual buildup, it didn't come out of nowhere.
     
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    What are you talking about? Link plz?
     
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    or bred with.
     
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    If the new species is who I think they are, then I love them! They are so smart! I encountered such a group when I remote-viewed (and interacted with) the occupants of some caves in the past who buried their dead, I did this back in 2014.

    I kind of hope that they recover their DNA and revive them to find out how smart they are. Or I would, except I'm afraid that if the new species were revived that they would end up as lab rats to be experimented on like they were monkeys for research. To live and die in pain for tests and nothing else.

    They are smart enough to be taught quantum physics, in fact, they could teach us a thing or two!
     
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    My guess is they don't. I think proof like that would not be able to be kept secret, that some have held power and honestly wanted it released, such as Obama, and that a civilization advanced enough to deploy such craft or drones would have security countermeasures to prevent this.

    That said, I think it's more likely than not that some of the UAPs are from aliens. There's just documented capabilities that don't fit with what our technology can do. And it's almost certain there is intelligent alien life out there somewhere - but the distances are vast.
     
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    This wasn't held back from the public for reasons beyond ensuring they got the science right.
     
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    Hmmm aliens build an amazing vehicl that can fly a light speed or faster and navigate the vastness of space only to crash multiple times on earth? If so, I have no use for them.Hmmm... Maybe intoxication a factor?
     
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    This type of story has been circulated for ages. When "war of the worlds" was broadcast on radio there were suddenly loads of reports of UFO sightings. After the moon landing there were suddenly a lot more reports of UFO sightings. After Close Encounters Of the Third kind was released there were suddenly loads more reports of UFO sightings. Perhaps the aliens are watching our TV broadcasts

    No governments have got alien crash materials.
     
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    War of the worlds broadcast was in 1938.

    It was the mid to late 40s before we started having UFO sighting.
     
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    Yes, you are right but I presume you can see my point?
     
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    Over the last 10 years or so the government has slowly been releasing some UFO details. The most recent is the Tic Toc video. Don’t expect a huge turn around. Maybe, just maybe, the government is getting ready to actually announce UFO exists. But keep in mind, UFO stands for unidentified flying object. Not ET’s or aliens from another planet. Although they are possible in my mind.
     
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    You have the discovery of Göbekli Tepe which dates back to at least 10,000 BC. At a time when only hunter gathers occupied the world or so we’ve been told. Hunter gathers without the technology to build something akin to Göbekli Tepe. Göbekli Tepe could be much older. There has been geologist who think the Sphinx of Egypt dates back to around 10,000 BC also. Which could point to the theory of an ancient civilization that predates us that disappeared off the face of the earth a very long time ago. Puma Punku in Bolivia could also date back to 10,000 BC or older. So take your choice, ancient civilization prior to us or ET’s or perhaps both. The fact is that there’s a lot out there we’re not being told. A lot that could upset our current view of history. Plenty of evidence that is simply ignored since that evidence doesn’t fit into our present-day theories or what is considered historical fact of the evolution of mankind that are put forth today. Don’t upset the apple cart.
     
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    There is a lot that we don't know - no doubt about that.

    But, it's a giant leap from "we don't know it all" to "they are hiding ETs from us".

    Scientists become well know by upsetting the apple cart. That's a holy grail. That is what happens when advances are made.

    Scientists are NOT sacrificing their lives to the god of not making any difference. On the contrary, scientists PRAY for somebody to PLEASE upset the apple carts. For example, the huge disappointment with the CERN particle accelerator is that it CONFIRMED the existing model of physics. The very reason it was built, for HUGE dollars, was to blow a hole in what we know about physics. Now, they are making it more powerful, so maybe they can still destroy some part of current understanding.
     
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    I think it's more that there is stuff out there that we don't know more so than that there is stuff we're not being told.

    Gobekli Tepe wasn't kept secret from us (at least by anyone living), we just didn't know it was there until it was found.
     
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    Yes, our DoD has super strong reason not to disseminate information on what we can detect and how well we can detect it. So, from them we get grainy versions of video of objects that have by now been pretty well identified.

    The DoD does need to stay on top of this, as there have been drones in restricted airspace and drones are sure to be used in any military conflict (such as today in Ukraine) and in terrorist actions. Plus, there is the threat of military technology advances by other countries.
     
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    If scientist are what you say they are, why do they laugh off Göbekli Tepe, or any suggestions of the Sphinx being much older than what we’re told or even Puma Punku being built way when we all were just hunters and gathers. Why to suggest otherwise puts any scientist career at risk. How was it possible for our hunter gather forefathers to quarry and move 300 ton stone blocks at Baalbec. All unexplainable.


    Now I think the newer generation of scientist are more willing to listen to the evidence than those in the past that didn’t want to upset the existing apple cart as is written down in our history books today. Perhaps there is hope, time will tell.
     
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    I agree totally. If we have received a crashed flying saucer, I understand why we wouldn’t want to broadcast that. Especially if we’re reverse engineering the thing to make our defenses better, to maintain the upper hand.
     
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    I've never heard of those questions being "laughed off". These are all serious topics.

    I'm sure there are ideas that are abruptly discarded due to progress in understanding, as that is constantly progressing. Also, it is quite true that mistakes can be made. How huge blocks of granite could be stacked by the ancients is certainly one of those things that was considered impossible at one time.

    I am absolutely with you on not wanting existing theory to slow progress.

    Also, I think there is greater attention being paid to methods of exploration of these sites such that evidence isn't destroyed - a serious problem in past exploration of Egyptian cites by Europeans, for one example, and the collection of artifacts for other than open science for another.
     
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    You know, it is said there’re a bit of truth behind ever myth. Perhaps Plato and Homer weren’t that far off when they were writing about an ancient civilization that existed once but was long forgotten, more or less wiped from human history and mind. Most would say that is a wild thought unworthy of thought or investigation. Perhaps they’re right as any evidence would be long gone or under the sea. We live on an ever-evolving planet with earthquakes, volcanoes, some super, asteroid and comet hits, ice ages. It easy to see where earth itself could destroy all evidence.


    This is where someplace like Göbekli Tepe and Puma Punku really intrigue me. They say Göbekli Tepe was buried on purpose. As to when it was built and then buried is pure speculation. Regardless, I say the ancients were a whole lot smarter than we give them credit for. That they many things they accomplished we’d either have a very hard time today or we could accomplish what they did.
     

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