America is abandoning rationality to justify illegal immigration

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Then like me, they are probably wondering what you are talking about.
     
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    Enough to burn Ferguson, Baltimore, Kenosha, La Mesa, Milwaukee, Seattle and more... coast to coast
     
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    That could be accomplished with just a few dozen people.


    What percentage of "the youth" do you believe participated in that?
     
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    I'll have to get back to you on that after counting the thousands in the news videotapes
     
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    Ok, let me know when you've done the math.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, you are the only one who doesn't get the difference between apprehension, expulsion and depuration. The expulsion in CBP data means the folks were kicked out of the US.
     
  7. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    But what you questioned in the OP was deportations.
     
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    From your article (the opinion piece)

    "In comparison, the number of removals conducted by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to more than 150 countries worldwide in the 2022 fiscal year was about 72,000"

    See, it shouldn't matter which word you pick, unless you have an agenda to advance. The number of total removals was nearly 2 million.
     
  9. Lil Mike

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    The link in the OP goes to an ICE website that states that. I'm not sure what point you are making, since you were blaming the opinion for reproducing a figure that is actually on the .gov site.

    The bigger question is why this is such a big issue for you. Shouldn't your complaints be directed at ICE if you don't like their numbers?
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh dear.....LOL.

    Ok, CBP numbers are lies and your opinion piece it the truth. Happy? LOL

    Or you can read the ICE link and learn what that number represents, but I have a feeling you don't really care about the truth.
     
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    Funny, I was just thinking the same about you. I went to the link in the OP that you were complaining about and it was correct. At this point, the problem is strictly yours.
     
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    The number is correct for what is represents, but the whole truth is vastly different. The ERO (which your source references) removed 72K and arrested 142K.

    You want to stick to those numbers? Fine, but that means there were only 142K people caught entering illegally, which means we are at historic low when it comes to illegal immigration and its not even close. Need a wall to curb such insignificant numbers? Hell no. Biden brought the numbers to a trickle.

    However, that's not true, because that's just ERO, while the total numbers from all agencies is totally different, and the number of people kicked out is nearly 2 million, and if they were kicked out, it can only mean they must have come in illegally first.

    So, yea, your opinion piece took the ERO removals (small number) and compared to the total number of illegals in US (11 million), in order to produce a very small percentage. It was obvious, but you didn't catch the spin. Well, what can I say.......some catch the obvious, and some don't.
     
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    If the numbers are "correct for what is represents" you shouldn't have claimed they weren't.
     
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    Because they are not correct for what they are trying to sell them as (the you bought it). Be more alert next time so you won't come across as someone who is easy to fool. You have to dig a little to get to the truth, but it seems you went with the spin in the opinion piece.

    Are you going to believe there was only 142K illegal crossings last year? If so, why don't you open a thread about it to celebrate such 'win' in the war against illegal immigration?
     
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    You contradict yourself from post to post. I've no idea what your issue is at this point but there is something that has upset you. Of course at this point, I don't care.
     
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    Of course you don't have any idea. You swallowed the bait in the article, and that's all that matters. I was simply pointing it out. You would have been better off not responding, but its too late now.
     
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    Of course you'd say that. Every time you lose an argument you claim to have no idea what people mean even when its made crystal clear. And then you pick up your toys and leave saying you don't care anymore. That's your schtick

    If you look into the numbers portrayed in your link, then there was 142K illegal crossings last year and 72K deportation, but everyone (except you) knows the actual numbers are much higher.

    Are you going to stick with the142K? If so, then why complain, because its by far the lowest number ever, and its not even close.

    Of course your opinion piece pushes the 72K number as the overall total in order to push their bias.
     
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    I didn't know I had a shtick. I'm not even sure what your mad about. I posted the article, you complained about numbers on the article, and posted a chart showing something different, I pointed that out, then you were still mad about the article's numbers, so I went to the government site where the article got the numbers and showed they were correct, so at this point, me losing interest seems fairly natural rather than a "shtick."
     
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    No one is mad, except maybe you because you picked up your toys and stormed out saying "I don't care anymore".

    Are you going to stick with the142K as the total number of illegals coming across the border?

    I accept that it is indeed your stance, and therefore you must be happy the problem has all but disappeared.
     
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    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Yawn, could you point to the post where I allegedly claimed "142K as the total number of illegals coming across the border?"
     
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    Its the number from the source which your opinion piece (and you) used to push the argument for low deportations. Its a very low number because that agency doesn't handle much. Vast majority are apprehended and kicked out by others.
     
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    So I never said that number. OK progress sort of...

    Now I looked at the opinion piece and couldn't find that number. MAYBE I just missed it. Could you quote it and point it out for me?
     
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    Maybe you missed, it but its more likely that you don't see what you refuse to see. Yo uclaimed you verified the 72K number and if you did, if would have been impossible to miss the arrest numbers.

    The source says:
    - The directorate conducted 72,177 removals
    - ERO conducted 142,750 administrative arrests in FY 2022, nearly doubling the number it made in FY 2021.

    Doubling the number........that Biden guy mist be doing an amazing job.

    But then again, as I said these numbers don't mean anything, which I why I said you were fed a steamy plateful of horse-pucky

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    OK you are amusing me again. Even though I already checked, I ran the number "142,750" through find on the article OP and you'll never guess what happened?

    0 found!
     
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    You are being dim. Its in the source where your opinion piece pulled the number.

    Have a nice day.
     

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