Turns out the gay wedding website case was faked

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  1. CornPop

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    These were perversions of the 14th Amendment and were only allowed within strict boundaries that were not being followed by college admissions' use of affirmative action.

    Even the Clinton-appointed judges who ruled against her said she had standing. The state threatened her with punitive measures. That gave her standing.

    Try using real sources rather than liberal blogs. You'll have a better understanding of what is going on.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden just ended a 2 trillion dollar war and you people want to send more billions to the military while being upset about crippling debt being removed from our students.

    How laughable
     
  3. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    I'm saying the one she claimed did actually didn't.

    She lied.

    Do you remember when lies used to be a bad thing?
     
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  4. Maquiscat

    Maquiscat Well-Known Member

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    In the end you don't get to define her faith and what it entails, nor anyone's. And no one gets to define yours. The specific definition of a given faith is why we have so many denominations/sects of the various religions.
     
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    That reads as a classic True Scotsman fallacy.
     
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    I'm still waiting for the proof that she lied as opposed to a third party forging his name.
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    It's always someone else's fault with you tRumpers.
     
  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    This case should be expunged, the ruling rendered null and the perp indicted.
     
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  9. StillBlue

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    It's quite simple, their needs to be a.distinction between those that get their morality from the New Testament and those that make up their morality from things that are not there but want to use the name. I am against maligning a book with splendid teachings by claiming it supports evil when it does no such thing..
     
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    Don't even go there with me! I couldn't stand Hillary or Trump. I would have rather had Bill back in before Hillary. DeSantis can go get bent, but I would gladly vote for Hogan for Prez any day of the week. I vote people, not parties. Still waiting on the proof that Smith faked the request.
     
  11. Maquiscat

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    As much as I agree with your position, in the end, each person determines their own religion and there is no claim on any given religion's name. At best the denomination's name might be, but given all the different variations of Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Lutheran, hell even the Mormons have at least two denominations even if one tried to claim the other isn't Mormon. And that is a major reason why religious freedom must be protected.
     
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    Yeah we should just let China take over the world that sounds like a great plan.

    There was no surprise in the cost of college they knew what they signed up for. If you don't want to pay the cost then don't go. And the people who spent years paying their school loans they just get screwed. But they will be asked to pay the cost of this massive liberal spendthrift plan when taxes have to go up to pay for it.
     
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    So maybe I misunderstood you. You are saying businesses DO have a right to free speech? If so I agree.
     
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    it's amazing that you claim anyone who isn't a leftwing authoritarian-must be a "tRumper"
     
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    If they choose to call themselves something else then fine, they can capitalize it, like Satanists do, but as they don't accept the teachings of Christ they need to distinguish themselves as something other than Christian.
     
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    The problem is that you are engaging in a True Scotsman fallacy. By their beliefs you are the one not accepting the teachings of the Christ and should distinguish yourself as something other than Christian.
     
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    So they're ignorant non Christians. I can accept that.
     
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    I don't believe that folks who claim to be Christians can read. It is very clearly an insanely ascetic religion. There is one main theme in the New Testament which is clearly the actual command from Christ to love one another. The next greatest theme repeated throughout the New Testament is the <corruption of the spirit> or <some similar concept> presented by money, or wealth. And then comes the third theme, or, perhaps it is actually the step 0 flaw: supernatural magic bs. Trinities, Resurrection, Armageddon, Transmutation, blah, blah, blah....

    Give your money to Joel, for Lakewood is costly to maintain, be not like evil Ananias and Sapphira....

    Odd innit, that so many religions seem to place poverty as such a wonderful thing.

    Give unto Caesar that which is his, forget about tithing, nowadays it's about half.

    As Hunter Thompson said of the Code of the West, so to can be said of most any religion: it can mean just about whatever you need it to in a pinch.
     
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    And yet you still go out to the end of the limb to defend this ****.

    The proof is in the linked article. They spoke to the person who allegedly made the request. He didn't. He isn't gay. He is married to a woman. He is in fact a web designer himself and wouldn't have needed her services anyway.

    You don't wanna be called a tRumper? Don't act like one.
     
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    Should a woman that isn’t pregnant be able to sue over abortion laws? Should an individual that hasn’t been shot be able to sue gun manufacturers?
    It’s odd how there is no real outrage when billionaires and corporations get tax cuts or receive subsidies. The PPP fraud was brushed under the table. Plane companies successfully lobbied VA for example to no longer have to sales tax. Hundreds of billions were lost “saving” the too big to fail corporations.

    But students are where you draw the line — people that were children when they agreed to these rates and can never file bankruptcy on them.
     
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    Yes.

    Should a person who hasn't been in a car accident be able to sue automobile manufacturers?
     
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    As are you. I accept that as well.
     
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    So with all this you show that you cannot distinguish between the plaintiff making a false claim, and a third party forging Stewart's name on a web form. You are too willing to cling to a false narrative, than to think for yourself. I am not willing to throw the LBGT+ community under the bus for the radical religious, nor am I willing to throw the religious under the bus for the radical LBGT+. Both radical factions are making it harder for the rest of us.
     
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    In this case yes. This is a law that has the government trying to restrict her, and challenging the law before it affects her.

    In this case no. Aside from the fact that gun manufacturers, or any manufacturer for that matter, should never be responsible for how an end user misuses their product, this is not a situation where a government law is imposing a restriction to be challenged.

    You mean aside from the outrage that comes from the liberals every time. That said, I'm all for letting the big boys fail. If you succeed big, be prepared to fail big.
     
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    The bishop is going to be so disappointed me.
     

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