Does RFK have blood on his hands?

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Mehdi Hassan does a deep dive on the role the “Children’s Health Defence” group run by……Robert Kennedy Jnr. Mehdi lays the blame for the measles related deaths mostly at the feet of this group but to be honest they were not alone in spreading the misinformation and lies. The Royal Australian College of GPs ran an article outlining what happened and they named other anti-vaxxers who stuck their noses into the mess and made it worse.
    https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/anti-vaccination-advocates-double-down-as-measles

    So, summary for those who do not want to watch Mehdi
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Samoa_measles_outbreak
    measles is not “just a rashy disease”
    Kennedy’s role?

    https://arstechnica.com/science/201...y, the deaths were,safety of the MMR vaccines.

    83 dead the vast majority of whom were children and the deaths may not end there. SSPE is a rare, fatal sequelae of measles that can occur 7-10 years after infection
    https://www.cdc.gov/measles/symptoms/complications.html
     
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    Robert Kennedy is the only political figure that I have found at all inspiringin todays political landscape.
    Politicians on the left and right are desperate to shut him up. I’m sure the attacks will get more intense as we get closer to election time.
    I think if we compare the number of deaths Biden and Trump are responsible for to the ones Kennedy is responsible for, we will see a vast difference. I might not agree with Lennedy on everything, but I agree with his points of view far more than either Biden or Trump.
     
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    I don't see the connection to Kennedy's hand.

    If I convinced you not to wear your seatbelt because sometimes it's safer to be ejected from the vehicle and you died in a wreck, or if I convinced you that you don't need a kitchen fire extinguisher because your stove is electrical instead of gas and your house burned down, no court in the USA would find me culpable.

    Maybe in Australia it's different.

    The fact remains that nothing is without risk and there is a casual relationship between measles vaccination and encephathology. -that's what the US government claims.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9481001/#article-details

    It just might be safer if you got thrown clear of the wreck. The odds aren't in your favor, but that does not nescessarily mean the seatbelt is the correct life saving choice.
     
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    The Democrat party is going into full-on attack mode in any way they can against RFK.

    He obviously has them panicked
     
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    nope. not for a minute.
     
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    Does Fauci have any blood on his hands? He’s a fan of gain of function research, and he stifled debate on the source of the pandemic to cover his butt.

    The vaccine was not without risk. As the truth dibbled out about the vaccine, that it didn’t do all that the government said it would do, giving people the choice of getting the jab or losing your career is hardly fair. Drumming people out of the military was wrong.

    Having said that, Kennedy will probably never get my vote. His father would have gotten it if I had had the vote in 1968.
     
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    Does RFK have blood on his hands?


    No. Anyone who didn’t get their kids vaccinated is to blame.
     
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    Which is bizarre because he is one of them. If they fear him that much, maybe he can win an election for them. I stopped looking for common sense in politics long ago.
     
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    You haven’t answered the question though
     
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    However he and his group jumped on the deaths of the two infants and spread rumours that it was the vaccine to blame and not a tragic medical error. Disinformation kills
     
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    When your enemy makes a mistake don't interrupt them.
     
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    The covid vaccine and tragic medical error by the way in this case are synonyms.
     
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    Ahhh! Unfounded rumours and QANON misinformation. This is different. The initial cases were a medical error and nothing to do with the vaccine. Kennedy even contacted the Samoan PM to urge him to blame the vaccines. Vaccines that have been given to billions and have stopped the spread of measles. Ye gods the very fact that the vaccination rate fell to around 30% and 83 died underscores how freaking effective the vaccine normally is!
     
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    This has nothing to do with COVID but don’t let me stop you from making senseless comparisons
     
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    Democrats aren’t the ones wanting to vote for him. But please keep that thought as Bannon strategy was to run Kennedy to split the Democrat vote - looks like it is backfiring big time as republicans are starting to line up behind him
     
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    So what vaccine are you referring to here?
     
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    thank God for queuing on it gives you people a way out of anything without having to show any intellectual honesty.
    What vaccine?
     
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    :roll: Didn’t read the OP - unless of course somehow there is a belief that COVID and measles are the same disease :roll:
     
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    It would be pretty easy just to answer the question.

    But I understand the emotional need to get in digs and I'm a big boy.

    So again which vaccine are we talking about
     
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    Read the OP and this is the last time I will answer you on this thread
     
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    You never answered the question.

    It's just one word you have to type you went out of your way to avoid answering the question so that's suspicious.

    I'm just going to go ahead and assume you meant the covid-19 vaccine.

    And if this frustrates you answer the damn question.
     
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    You should be more worried about the large percent of Democrats that are unhappy with Biden.

    Not that it matters to you in the southern hemisphere
     
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    Does RFK have blood on his hands?

    I think it is just cranberry juice.
     

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