US to provide cluster munitions to Ukraine.

Correct. There are people who genuinely care about this sort of thing. I don't see any of them on this forum. I do see a lot of people pushing Russian propaganda & a smaller amount effectively doing the bidding of Russia by pushing some sad US political barrow.

 

And, those pushing Russian propaganda have been around a long time in many cases. Forum "veterans"...

 

Come now Ladies .. it is those silly woke jokesters who are paranoid hiding in the closet and under the desk crying "Russia Russia" as a response to information that conflicts with ingested state sponsored propaganda narrative.

The Azov Cheer team does not care about the US .. and all the damage we are suffering. They don't care about Uraine either .. another nation destroyed .. a pawn in our proxy battle with big bad Russia..

Doing the Bidding of the Washington Fat Cats these Biden Blue neocon psychophants .. joyfully marching us into the Abyss .. while crying Russia Russia. This is the progressive Anti American Cancel Culture ..

 

Did you completely miss the point of my first post? If Russia is successful here, they have already at least put forward the idea of invading Poland or the Baltic States.

 

Not sure I believe this unsupported cluster bomb claim - especially given your terrible track record.

Russian troops destroy Ukrainian strongholds in Krasny Liman
https://www.plenglish.com/news/2023...estroy-ukrainian-strongholds-in-krasny-liman/

Nothing about Cluster Bombs use in Liman on Google .. Looks like another made up story . did you hear this false nonsense on Twitter ? I know some on the Azov Cheer team think Twitter is a great source .. Don't believe it Friend

 

NATO will continue to expand as long as sovereign, independent nations seek to join the alliance and Russia can go to hell if they don't like it. Maybe they should stop invading their neighbors and giving them reasons to join.

Furthermore, we (the United States of America) have our most genocidal president on our $20 bill, does that give licence for another country to invade us?

 

No, I didn't miss your point.

 

Yet you just tried to.

The Biden admin said it's a war crime to use cluster munitions on civilians.

The Russians used them on civilians. The Ukrainians aren't going to use them on civilians.

You left that part out. Why?

 

Yet....when all else fails...America gets that 3AM call.

 

America did not get a call, we inserted ourselves.

 

War is ugly. In this case, the purpose of the bombs is to attack Russian defensive positions. There are no civilians involved. Again, war is ugly. Every time.

 

Uh...yeah...we got lotsa calls over the decades.

Nice try.

 

Let's be realistic( unlike the Russia cheerleaders ). The pace of this war , created by the Russians, is outstripping the supply of ordinance available. Cluster munitions are not precision weapons and will cause civilian casualties. They are being provided to Ukraine because they are available and also because of parity. If Russia uses cluster munitions, then so can Ukraine. Since most, if not all, of the fighting is on Ukrainian soil, the civilian casualties will be Ukrainian.

If the use of this weapon helps end the war quicker, all the better. I don't think it will, but at least it won't prolong the war.

As previously stated, this war is 100% Putin/Russia's fault. The quicker it ends, the better, but all the deaths(on both sides) are his fault. Putin can't suffer enough
for this atrocity and probably never will.

 

...yeah...there seems to be a failure to understand that Russia invaded Ukraine for no other reason than a land/resources grab...Ukraine is defending itself in the best way it can (with the equipment it can get or muster) from the aggression of a much larger and "better equipped" army; whilst they are defending well they need all the resources they can get in order to dislodge that attacker....baring the many Russian UI's I'm not sure why people have an issue with a country trying to defend itself? Anyway....seems a no brainer to me...

 

Chimpfag Putler will likely escape to some undisclosed location....if he's not taken out.

RuZZian(s) will likely suffer....as RF will break apart as a result of this.

 

They don't oppose the need to defend their country. They oppose our involvement in it. I think our involvement is stupidly handled. Instead of providing the assets needed to push Russia our of their country, we provide just enough assets to prolong the war. It is costlier, causes more death and destruction and will fail ultimately. Our weakness couldn't be more obvious. Get it done or get out.

 

"provides enough to prolong"??

In that case...the theory is to bleed the RF....long enough to break it apart, so it's military is non existent, nukes are a constant bluff, and it's minorities forever restless?!?

 

You are really knocking it out of the park with these zippy come backs.

 

Not everyone who wants the US to get into World War III with Russia because of Ukraine is a neocon. Quite a few have ethnic or other ties to the region and don't have a bit of problem plunging the world into nuclear war if they can get the US to attack their tribal enemies.

 

Opinion | What the U.S. Risks By Supplying Ukraine With Cluster Weapons - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

"The weapons used today by Russia and Ukraine are said to leave as many as 40 percent unexploded duds lying around, and they will remain a threat to the people of Ukraine no matter what the outcome of this conflict."

 

Accept that 97% of casualties from cluster munitions is to civilians and 2/3 are children.

Maybe diplomacy would be better?! Wait... War hawks do not make money on diplomacy..

 

Why give me general statistics to argue against a single situation? You should know better than that. War hawks don't end wars with diplomacy either.

 

What is an RF?

 

Cluster munitions is not a singular argument. 111 countries have signed the Convention on Cluster Munitions that outlaw their use because of the massive and debilitating impact those munitions have on the civilian populous for decades!

 

There are no civilians in the Russian defensive positions. Did you somehow fail to remember that the war is located in Ukraine? I recommend against being guided by other countries and what they do.