Intelligence Report Says Safety Training at Chinese Government Lab Complex in Wuhan Before the Pande

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  1. fmw

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    Why? The blame is obvious. Why spend time, money and effort on it? It is over.
     
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    I guess all we know is that the first three covid victims who contracted the virus were workers at the Wuhan institute. I reckon all three bought contaminated bats at the same exact wet shop.
     
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    No, it's not. Gain of function research is still being performed, at great risk to all of humanity. Scientists and politicians who lied about the origins are still in their positions. Those aren't the people we need to solve this quickly evolving threat to humanity that, imo, has surpassed all other threats (climate change, pollution, nuclear, white supremacy) in the level of urgency required. Covid is still out there mutating, and also causing mutations within many species of animals in response to it. Gun to my head guess as to whether Covid mutates unto another deadly wave = probably. This group of scientists that made Covid have unilaterally decided to make DNA changes to the entire planet's biosphere. They will be held to account, even if that accounting is the result of a worldwide religious backlash against these people playing God and manipulating nature. That's the message that will unite people against "science", and I for one plan to say and do what I can to push that backlash along.
     
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    Yes, I agree with that. I was talking about covid being over. And we thought lemmings were self destructive. Homo Sapiens beats them hands down.
     
  5. truth and justice

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    No reports stated that patient zero was a researcher there. The reports stated that a group of people got COVID and three of them worked on the lab
     
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    No report stated that the first three.worked in the lab
     
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    So you're saying that a lab worker from the Wuhan lab went to the wet-market, contracted Covid. And then went back to work and infected their fellow co-workers?
     
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  8. Lil Mike

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    No, not saying that at all.
     
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    The only way to stop this tangent humanity is following is to hold the people responsible for this research, and the myriad people who helped cover it up, accountable.
     
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    The fact is, that it is NOT a brand new virus. The name of the virus is actually "SARS-CoV-2".
    That is because there also was a "MERS-CoV" that spread in 2012, originating from Saudi Arabia.
    So it was known all along that the covid virus from animals is able to jump to humans.
    We also know it can jump back to animals, like cats.

    There is ZERO evidence about some kind of lab origins. Only theories that again and again end up to be far fetched to untrue, but still.. ZERO evidence.
    While actual scientists know this virus can jump to humans at any time. Maybe you should quit fakebook and let scientists do what you can not believe to be true.
     
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    From your source:
    China has strenuously denied that such a “leak” took place, and Gao did not present any evidence to counter those denials.


    Zero evidence... is still zero evidence.

    And let me put it this way. If this would have happened in Israel, than such false allegations would have been dubbed as anti-semitic.
    I do think we're there, that baseless accusations got it's fundaments that the Chinese aren't white.
     
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  12. FatBack

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    All you know is what they tell you and you're far too trusting of governments.

    You think it was just a big coincidence that the epicenter was right where the lab is?
     
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    Yes - fairly easy to figure out lab - the main one is that we know from genetics - epidemiology that it didn't come from the wet market and bat cave .. Occams Razor from there .. sick doctors .. I mean what do you want .. it is either the wet market or lab at this point and we have ruled out the wet market.

    No - Doesn't mean China is accountable. Over 20 different nations were doing this kind of freaky research .. and only 2 labs in world allowed to do this kind of work on corona virus .. Wuhan being one of them.. which is also the reason there was so much PR (Public Relations) effort into discounting the Lab Leak theory .. Which is almost a smoking Gun when you think about it... tens of millions of dollars were spent on convincing us it wasn't the lab in the outset.

    No - FMW - there is evidence that exists .. that Chinese have no control over and it is nearly a no brainer to figure out .. the reverse of impossible.
     
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    What we know from the lab that it was build with the help of the US, France and Canada.
    We know the US somehow paid that lab, since Trump put an end to that.

    We know that at the start of the pandemic, 2 whole airplanes with around 300 passengers mostly Americans went to the US.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-usa-idUSKBN20105M

    You go tell me what those 300 people, mostly Americans, were doing right in the middle of that epicenter?
    Sightseeing, because Wuhan is known for it's tourist attractions?
    Or were they working in that lab, with funds from the US... and got no prove to share that it originated there?
     
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    Selective quoting can't help your argument.
     
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    You're gonna hafta do better than tweets for a source.
     
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    That's assuming that everyone who worked in the lab, and can provide information on the origins, are unwilling to do so, ever. I don't think that's true. I think that the natural origins stance that Fauci and the CCP took had a twofold purpose (as I stated here back in 2020). It wasn't just to ensure that uninvolved scientists didn't mount a campaign against them, but it was also meant as a direct message to those working in the program: any whistleblowing on this will NOT be embraced.

    I disagree that we will never know. I think that once we clear out the traitors like Fauci and Collins, we will foster an environment in which information on the origins will be brought forward.
     
  19. truth and justice

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    Nothing new here
    It was reported over two years ago by Faucci that China was involved with gain of function. The US were funding it after it was banned in the US (no doubt that it is still going on in the US). There are threads in this forum about this over two years ago
     
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  20. GlobalCitizen

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    The fact that the genetic database that they compiled in Wuhan was removed before the news broke of a pandemic, never to be seen again, flies in the face of your entire stance. Innocent people wouldn't do that, and even if they did, 3 years later, when at least half the world, from the most remote African village to Appalachian towns, believes the virus was manufactured, they wouldn't continue to keep that database secret.
     
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    You've seen this genetic database that you now say was removed to hide evidence?
     
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    No.thats the point. To think that Wuhan didn't keep genetic sequence data on both the viruses they were gathering from caves around China, and their genetic manipulations, is preposterous

    We need that data to see if Covid more closely genetically matches the "natural" viruses you mentioned, or does it more closely resemble a virus that they brought to Wuhan, or a virus they had been manipulating.
     
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    You wrote that it is a fact that they were removed. Also what expertise have you got to analyse the difference between different RNAs of individual viruses and mutations
     
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    Yea.... just overlook the emails and government documents from "Select committee on the Coronavirus pandemic" signed by the chairman...
    I could not find a fake CNN or fake WaPo article to tell you what to think.... so I presented the facts and actual Government documents

    from your own report... the obvious omission all together... "wet market"
    www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Report-on-Potential-Links-Between-the-Wuhan-Institute-of-Virology-and-the-Origins-of-COVID-19-20230623.pdf
    The Department of Energy and the Federal Bureau of Investigation assess that a laboratory-associated incident was the most likely cause of the first human infection with SARS-CoV-2, although for different reasons.
    The Central Intelligence Agency and another agency remain unable to determine the precise origin of the COVID-19 pandemic, as both hypotheses rely on significant assumptions or face challenges with conflicting reporting.
    While some of these researchers had historically conducted research into animal respiratory viruses, we are unable to confirm if any of them handled live viruses in the work they performed prior to falling ill. (and they obviously did not find out if the researchers were over in the wet market)



    https://oversight.house.gov/subcommittee/select-subcommittee-on-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

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    So the OP is incorrect....
    Yea.... Obama banned it and then reversed the ban a few weeks before he left office.... I don't believe in coincidences when it comes to our government...
     

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