Nearly 50K Russian men have died in Ukraine war, nearly 9x larger than Russia's official figure: new

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  1. Joe knows

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    https://www.foxnews.com/world/nearl...larger-than-russias-official-figure-new-study


    quite a number. Russia is on the losing side of this war and they know it. I’m glad we are the ones sending Ukraine aid. I think we have a moron president that spits out ammunition shortages like a complete fool but I’m glad we’re aiding this country against russias illegal land grab.
     
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    so basically Russian deaths based on probate findings.....

    Linky thing to full article and the information graphics.... [​IMG]
     
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    Oh well, if you strap on a weapon and go stomping around another man's country you better be ready for some action.
     
  5. Joe knows

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    I agree
     
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    It's never been a better time to be a guy on FarmersOnly.com or one of the other Russian bride websites.
     
  7. Joe knows

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    Farmers only??? What’s the population where you live?
     
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    The Russians have 7x more fighting age men, but have only suffered 2.5x more KIAs.

    Sorry, but that doesn't look too good for the Yooks.
     
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    Official Russian authoroties say that only 6K were killed ... if the real number is close to 50K than that doesn't look good for the Paruskis
    50000 !!!!! :hiding::hiding::hiding::hiding:
     
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    They can't afford to lose too many for too long. It's also kind of sad how little value humans place on the lives of young fighting-aged men, isn't it?
     
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    Those dying are mostly "minorities" and convicts....which Real RuZZians don't give a $hit about.
     
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    The Russians have lost as many men in 18 months as we lost in 10 years (Vietnam) and many times what we lost in 20 years (Iraq and Afghanistan). The Moskals really are like ants, one dies and another takes his place and nobody cares.
     
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    Life comes cheap during a war.
     
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    The Yooks have lost 20,000. The Russians can absorb those casualties easier than the Yooks can.
     
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    Says who ?
    The mourning and crying of a mother over her son's grave is equally sad all over the world.
     
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    From the OP's source:

    A new independent statistical analysis has found nearly 50,000 Russian men have died in the war in Ukraine, a figure nearly nine times larger than the Russian government is reporting in the conflict, which has lasted more than 500 days.

    While Russia has publicly acknowledged the deaths of just over 6,000 soldiers, two independent Russian media outlets, Mediazona and Meduza, working with a data scientist from Germany’s Tübingen University, found the true human cost of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is up to at least 47,000 as of May 2023.


    However, a study by the BBC and one of the above-mentioned outlets; Mediazona, showed just over 25,000 Russian combat deaths as of June of this year.

    So, in May, 2023 Mediazona says that 47,000 Russians have died, but in June 2023 they say it's just over 25,000. So, which is it??

    A project of the BBC and independent Russian media outlet Mediazona says it has confirmed the deaths of 25,528 Russian troops in the war with Ukraine. Among the losses are more than 2,150 officers belonging to the Russian Army and other law enforcement agencies. The deaths of 161 military pilots also were confirmed, the joint project said in June 16.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/russia-losses-25500-ukraine-war-dead/32463400.html
     
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    Their families do. Beyond that demographers do to. Russia is not a populous nation, it's birth rate prior to the commencement of this war already below replacement rate and it's nose dived further since!

    For that matter the US and the rest of the Western world is caught in the same trap. The only thing keeping the US's population rising is immigration with the difference between the US and Russia being that people (especially from developing regions) actually want to emigrate to the US!
     
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    That has always been how Russia conducted herself, from the time of the gulags onwards. No one should be surprised with Russian barbarity, but it's also the reason no one has, or possibly will conquer Russia.

    She's just that annoying uncle that everyone has to find ways to deal with. Hence my call for a second Congress of Vienna.
     
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    The two figures are explained in the report. I suggest you read it.
     
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    Read them. A "statistical concept" vs open source info with the statistical concept yielding a # almost double open source info.

    That doesn't change the fact that Mediazona attatched its name to both reports which both claim to answer the same question .... the number of Russian combat deaths. But let's trust Mediazona. Yeah, that's the ticket!
     
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    OK, so you actually understand, but it doesn't tell you what you want to hear. Got it.

    Mediazona have been open & honest about how the numbers were arrived at and there is no contradiction between them if read in context. There should also be no surpise that open source information in a dictatorship that has lied at virtually every opportunity about this invasion doesn't yield a complete figure.

    This is precisely what it is presented as - a credible estimate based on research of available information. Feel free to present your own, more credible sources for Russian deaths if you have them.
     
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    The Russians are being killed faster than we were in the War in Vietnam.
     
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    2 Stupid unecessary wars !
     
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    I'm speaking from a tactical standpoint.
     

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