MOD WARNING German Study Finds Muslims Considerably More Likely to Be Antisemitic Than Average

So it's "racist" to challenge someone's claim who is blaming Jews for American slavery...lol

 

religion was used as a tool to unite people when the west conquered and divided up the Islamic world as it saw fit throughout much of the 20th century. The same way religion is always harnessed by government or power hungry people when it suits their purpose.
The anger towards the West today is due to events that were caused by the West within the last century.

 

Indeed.
My claim is that "Aryans and Jews are responsible for the American slavery", and you are not addressing that.

And you do this, because you hate it that I posted the fact of the average Jews in Israel are far more racist that Muslims who participated in the survey.
That got you triggered.

 

McVeigh was raised Roman Catholic.[103] During his childhood, he and his father attended Mass regularly.[104] McVeigh was confirmed at the Good Shepherd Church in Pendleton, New York, in 1985.[105] In a 1996 interview, McVeigh professed belief in "a God", although he said he had "sort of lost touch with" Catholicism and "I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs."[103] In McVeigh's biography American Terrorist, released in 2002, he stated that he did not believe in a hell and that science is his religion.[106][107] In June 2001, a day before the execution, McVeigh wrote a letter to the Buffalo News identifying himself as agnostic.[108] However, he took the last rites, administered by a priest, just before his execution.[109][110] Father Charles Smith ministered to McVeigh in his last moments on death row.[111]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#:~:text=In June 2001, a day,last moments on death row.

You are right.

 

Are you saying that the fabled "Islamic world" peacefully minded its own blissful business for centuries, until bad westerners conquered and divided them up ? Seriously?

Did you know that Pakistan didn't exist until the British created it for Indian Muslims in 1948, carving it out of India? Yet no Hindus are organizing themselves in terror organizations against bad westerners, while Pakistani children are taught in religious schools that Christians and Jews are not human beings. Go figure.

 

lol, I didn’t say that at all. I was replying to the statement that Islam was an existential threat to the west, and I was commenting on the conditions that lead to the current animosity.
As far as Pakistan and India, you are ignoring huge swathes of recent history. The 19th and 20th centuries are absolutely full of anti-western sentiment.
Pakistan was formed because Muslims were given no political influence in India under systems of government authorized by the British crown. The forced migration of Muslims from India to Pakistan saw huge levels of violence brought against Muslims, and was one of the largest forced migrations in history. All of the massive societal changes were brought about because of hundreds of years of exploitation by the East India Company, the British Crown, the Dutch, and others.

 

You're using fake allegations of "racism" like a shield to hide behind.

There is nothing "racist" about calling out anti-semitic tropes

 

You're indeed just here making racist insults because you can not stand that I sourced that Jews in Israel are on average massively more racist than the Muslims in the poll of the OP. And it aint an opinion of mine. I just sourced a poll the Israeli's held.

 

Oh, I think we need to see evidence.

 

You keep claiming that I'm insulting you but the only problem for you is that that isn't true.

You're insulting Jews by pretending like they were responsible for slavery. If me pointing that out makes you feel insulted then that's not my problem.

The only victim here is the Jewish people being slandered by you

 

I sourced it in post 30.

 

They are responsible together with the Aryans.
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jews-and-the-african-slave-trade/

 

Fascinating information from the link above
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Where the False Claim That Jews Controlled the Slave Trade Comes From
Those who make this case include Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam, and David Duke, the former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard.
A search for “Jews” and “slave trade” on YouTube pulls up more than 50,000 videos, most posted by the Nation of Islam, Duke and their supporters.
Mainstream scholars for the most part do not accept their conclusions and see the charges as essentially anti-Semitic.

 

Let's set the record straight shall we


https://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/14/opinion/l-jews-had-negligible-role-in-slave-trade-183202.html

 

Would you expect attacks against Turkey by Christian terrorists from eastern European countries formerly occupied by the Ottoman Empire? Why aren't such attacks happening?

Radical Islam - an umbrella term for all versions of political, militant Islam, also called Islamism - is a threat to the world, including Muslims themselves.

Anti western sentiment in the Muslim world has nothing to do with western attitudes toward Muslims. Ask yourself why nobody in the Muslim world cares about atrocities against, and persecutions of, Tamil Muslims in Sri Lanka, Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar, or Uighur Muslims in China.

In order to understand why radical Islam is at war with the west, one has to study Islam itself - schools of jurisprudence, major scholars, the ideologies of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Deobandi, Salafis in general - as well as the impact of Marxism on young Arab intellectuals after WWI,

One example of anti western attitude that had nothing whatsoever to do with western attitudes toward Muslims is the fierce opposition to import of western goods in the early days of Saudi Arabia. The Saudi tribe conquered Nejd and Hejaz in the Arabian Peninsula with the help of the Ikwhan, the now defunct Muslim Brotherhood in the Arabian Peninsula. This is how Saudi Arabia was born. However, the Ikwhan soon turned against their former allies, threatening to overthrow them. The reason? The ruling Saudi family brought cars and telephones into the kingdom, an abomination to the puritan Brotherhood. This is a very clear instance of hatred for everything western that owes nothing to western attitudes toward Muslims.

 

That Jews supposedly controlled the slave trade, is not my claim.
What matters is that you're unable to dispute what I did claim.

 

The anti western sentiment in the Muslim world has everything to do with western attitudes toward Muslims. Osama Bin Ladin did 9/11 because of it. The way the US held a coup in Iran, to than help out Saddam Hussein gas them, is rather recent history. And that causes a tremendous amount of hate in their world. The way the Rohingya and Uighurs are treated and the west does nothing, with all that firepower they have, also is something they are fully aware of. Not to mention how the US does help out Saudi Arabia to basically cause a genocide to happen in Yemen. They can't actually vote in Egypt, because the US does help out it's thug military junta. When they did, they showed the military equipment saying made in the US when they captured to the world during that brief moment they took their freedom.

 

That's a pay wall. And besides. That is about the slave trade alone. I'm talking about the entire theme. That is investing into ships to do the slave trade, doing the slave trade, owning slaves, investing into business who own slaves, using products made by slaves in their own businesses, or investing into such businesses. The works. I sourced they were in on it, just like the Aryans.

 

The article describes the truth. Germany has imported hatred against Jews by its migration policies.

 

Thank you, that was my point. Western civilized nations are foolishly inviting hostile ideaologies into their midst, people who have no intention of assimilating.

 

I suppose you want to see evidence for reform movements in the Islamic world.

One prominent advocate for reinterpreting the Quran - including the antisemitic passages - is the writer and journalist Ali Eteraz. His site was a meeting place for like-minded reformist Muslims. Unfortunately the site doesn't exist anymore. I'm lucky to have stumbled upon it by chance. It completely changed my perspective on Islam, Muslims, and relationships between religious people in general.

There are many Muslims, both in the western world and Muslim countries, who support reforming Islam.

https://muslimreformmovement.org/

Reform movements in Islam are not a new phenomenon, and are not restricted to Muslims in diaspora. Some Muslim scholars were inspired by the Protestant reformation in Europe.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/histor...es-pictures-and-press-releases/islamic-reform

Egypt and, to a lesser extent, Saudi Arabia, are changing their school curriculum to exclude extremism and even antisemitism.

https://www.impact-se.org/wp-conten...ts-Curriculum-IMPACT-se-Report-April-2023.pdf

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-710756

 

When and if they reform Islam become willing to assimilate they may not be a threat, but right now they are. Islam is an existential threat to Western Civilization. BTW, let me know how that reform thing works out

 

Is that a quote or your interpretation?

 

There is too much fact in your contribution. Most people cannot digest very much of it especially considering they've been force-fed nothing but propaganda all of their lives.

 

born and raised Christian....