MOD WARNING German Study Finds Muslims Considerably More Likely to Be Antisemitic Than Average

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    Southern Europe was a battlefield in these 500 years because they had to fight back the Ottoman invasions. The Muslim world attacked Europe for nearly one thousand years. Only their inability to modernize their regimes and their industry and science stopped them.
     
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    Holy shtetl! I'm afraid to look up "irregardless" now and I'm sure "agnostic" will be equally outrageous. But I watch enough TV and I've heard Americans say things such as "I physically went to his house" and "Basically, I reached out to him telephonically" so I shouldn't be completely surprised. The next American tourist who needs help and asks me if I speak English I'm going to answer, "No."
     
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    Why do leftists defend fundamental Islam I'll let the same time condemning fundamentalist Christianity?

    Is it because you perceive Muslims as mostly non-white?
     
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    Arab Muslims are mostly non-white.
    In "white" Sweden locals are converting to Islam due to the mass islam immirgation & fear.
     
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    If you criticize Islam unjustly I will disagree with you. If you criticize Christianity unjustly I will disagree with you. If you criticize the making of "the bomb" unjustly I will disagree with you. If you criticize the bombing of Japan unjustly I will disagree with you. If you criticize Communism unjustly I will disagree with you. If you criticize Capitalism unjustly I will disagree with you.

    I stand proud of my convictions and nothing I've said here makes me a "leftist".
     
  6. Thingamabob

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    True.
    Probably.

    I don't believe that. Racism against Swedes is no doubt strong but "pressure to conform"? I don't think so.

    I agree with that (in so far as what Swedes will say publically) but religious conversion requires belief, not lip service.
    I'll take your word for it but that would apply "to avoid harassment and taunting" not a willingness to convert to Islam. I shop in Rosengård maybe once a month. If I were to guess I'd say there is no more than one Swede in every 500 foreigners living there and if you see a European Moslem woman you can bet she is Bosnian.

    I don't know how old you are but if you want to know what Swedes REALLY think you'll have to sit at the front of the bus for the elderly and mention the immigration problem. You will discover a world you didn't know exists.
     
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    For that specific statement, I was referring to Swedes who might modify their behavior in public to act more "Muslim". Typically these might be lower income Swedes in neighborhoods that are over 80% Muslim. Typically these will be women or children.
    That is a little bit of a separate issue from actually converting to the religion. But sometimes they will go far, such as a single parent family choosing not to eat any pig meat. Women who will wear a headscarf in public as a fashion, to fit in and try not to clash with her neighborhood community.

    Mostly impressionable young women who hold liberal beliefs in the cities. And children and teenagers.
     
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  8. Polydectes

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    Yeah, Muslims can be all races.
     
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    Agreed. leftists essentially say you can't criticize Islam basically all criticism of it is unjust.
    I criticize it for only just reasons.
     
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    lol
    I equated your ideals with the ideals of the nazi's. And that's all you got to say about it.
    I guess we can wrap it up.
     
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    Ignorance is bliss.

    Left wing antisemitism disguises itself as human rights speech. Harder to spot than right wing antisemitism, but it's there, and it's mainstream. It's rooted in aggressive anti-Jewish and anti-Zionist Soviet propaganda, and further boosted by dependence on Middle Eastern oil (western Europe was hit hard by the oil embargoes of the 70s).

    https://www.rferl.org/a/soviet-islamist-terrorism-israel-america-disinformation-pacepa/25034290.html

    Lt. Col. Ion Pacepa, one of the authors of the book mentioned in the above quote, was a high ranking intelligence officer in Romania before he defected to the US in the late 70s. Here's more, from an interview with Pacepa:
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/...king-soviet-bloc-intel-officer-to-ever-defect

    Pacepa is not the only source for left wing antisemitism.

    You're well aware of Russian disinformation campaigns. You created a thread about Soviet propaganda.
    https://fathomjournal.org/soviet-anti-zionism-and-contemporary-left-antisemitism/

    Following is a testimony to the devastating effect of antisemitic and anti-Zionist Soviet propaganda in the Arab world. It's an English translation of an Arabic text, part of an article in a Jordanian newspaper.
    Source (in original Arabic) https://www.addustour.com/articles/1126027-أوراق-غير-متناثرة-في-«الصهيونية-الاستيطانية»

    The Soviets used all traditional antisemitic tropes in their anti-Zionist propaganda. When left wing anti-Zionists repeat the old Soviet propaganda, they are further disseminating antisemitic libels. Anti-Zionist propaganda goes hand-in-hand with anti western, anti American propaganda. This is one of the reasons for Muslims' hatred of America today. The other is, of course, the Salafi position that Muslims should go back to the purity of the beginnings of Islam, when there were no influences from the outside world (so they claim).
     
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    The problem with criticizing Islam that there are over a billion of them followers and people nitpick the absolute tiniest fraction (like ISIS) of that group to slander them all as if they are all like that. That the very bulk of those people with their scholars oppose it, gets dishonestly ignored. While things some people who follow Islam do (like the way they dress), can just as well be a cultural thing. But that too is non of their concern. Them lot who "criticize" just like to discriminate, and think it's alright to do it since it's not racist. While it's on par with racism. And that usually ends up with "the left" saying the criticism is unjust.
     
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    Any time you want to wrap it up go for it.
     
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    sure sure. And than usually what I spot is that people go interpret 1 line that got translated from Arabic to English, without any regard to context. For instance Surah 9:5 mentions "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush". This is where the general criticizer insist it must mean all disbelievers everywhere, but the context is about those disbelievers who betrayed Mohammed's peace treaty. Them haters come by a dime a dozen. Don't make me laugh. And you're free to put on that shoe if that fits.

    The above is usually the case. In the end the thing is that when white Christian Europe went apesh** against who ever did not follow the right flavor of Christianity, it meant they head needed to be removed if there was no willingness to be converted. The Islamic Ottoman empire, was not without it's flaws, but there was a reasonable high amount of tolerance. High enough for Jews to flee Europe and go to them. Heck, if it wasn't for religious persecution in Europe, there would have been no thanksgiving.
     
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    Jews too.
     
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    I'm 76 and if my "mom" happened to still be alive she'd be too feeble to comment.
     
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    How did Christianity get to Europe in the first place?

    Oh, that's right, they invaded.
     
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    Yeah I criticize the ideology I don't think what you typed has any value
     
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    Yeah all religions. Religion is a choice at least at a certain part of your life
     
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    Worthless post wrap up faster and less insufferable please.
     
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    If she was alive she'd be very proud of you. BTW, it doesn't matter how old you are, she's still your mom.
     
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    It probably hit the truth.
     
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    you should look into the mirror.
     
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    I said the truth you didn't add to it.
     
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    You sure are showing me. lol
     

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