Too much evidence....

It's perfectly legal to cash in on your fame after you leave office. Fame is an asset --you can write books, give lectures. Get paid handsomely, this is not corruption.

 

....... and still some more.

Here Are All The People Who Have Corroborated Biden Family Corruption

 

In reading through most of the recent exchanges with UntilNextTime I think it is time to recognize the utter futility of trying to have an informed discussion with someone who uses as their source the crackpot video he posted. Nothing could so eloquently express that you cannot have a fact-based discussion with anyone for whom an attempt to come to an understanding of the truth is so meaningless. I find the board to be much more tolerable when I put such posters on ignore.

 

What's astounding about people who think they're having "informed discussions is futile" is that they know they have no case to argue. Because their beloved MSM sources of news don't cover what Congress and the Senate both have identified, it's the freelance, investigatory journalism labeled as "crackpot", because more of the truth is coming out and it's too much to bear, in particular, Lee Atwater. No need to get upset, Biden will be indicted soon enough, even if MSM doesn't want to step in for you and not dismiss any or all of the allegations. The swamp is drying up, we're starting to see the creatures that dwell on the bottom along with all the mud.

 

There have been no illegal activities between Biden and China. No evidence, but lots of accusations and that is it. And accusations is not evidence. Nothing the NY post has printed and nothying that Breibart has printed is actual evidence. It sounds scary, they use fear tactics, but nothing in that case. The only thing Comer has done is shown payments from Point A to Point B to point C. But he has no other supporting documentation directly related to those payments, which he got from bank records.

Finally, your argument makes on logical sense. Biden is not trying to take out China or Russia. With China, we still have tariffs that Trump started still in place. At the same time. Second, both dealt with business in China. Having patents in China makes sure that none of his products are copies in China. China, with certain Chinese entrepreneurs, are notorious with copy right infringement. But since the Chinese government does not recognize other country's patents and copyrights, it is best to have them in China as well. If you are caught in China for copyright or patent infringement, that can get you the death penalty or long prison terms.

 

Of course not when it's a Democrat. I fully understand the double standards. Do not even think for 1 minute why Obama was paid $300 million by Netflix. I'm confident that his rich history and experience in entertainment is the reason why

oi vay

 

Nor is it when it's a Republican. Arnold Schwarzenegger got paid many more millions than Ron Reagan.

Was that a double standard? No.

he also got paid more than a heart surgeon?

Was that a double standard? No,.

It's call the 'free market', remember? private demand determines value. We are not a communist society, remember?

There is no double standard and you are confused.

The netflix deal is a production deal. You do work, you get paid. You get paid for your 'value'. And it's not $300 million, their deal is worth abut $60 million or so for a series, which is in line for a production deal by any other producer of TV series.

I find it amazing how the right touts the 'free market' but when the free market doesn't value a Republican as much as a Democrat, they cry.

Nor is the claim even true.


They are not being paid for being a Democrat. they are being paid for producing series entertainment. The Obama's are great story tellers.

They are getting paid for their talent, just as Arnold Schwarzenegger was getting paid, even much much much more than the Obamas, for his talent.

It's a free market, remember? There is no crime. It's the same reason they pay baseball players a hundred times more than they pay heart surgeons, and do you see heart surgeons complaining "illegal" ?

The market determines value, and now you are telling me your are anti free market?

Learn to be consistent in your values.

 

I fully support the free market and that includes graft to DC folks including the Obamas. That is the way of DC and it's up to us the voters to admit that even "our guys" are corrupt. Then, we might start voting for folks who actually want to represent us. Until then, feel free to kid yourself that your Democrat party isn't corrupt.

 

Drivel.

 

it’s business not graft. The Obama’s made their publishing House a ton of money which Netflix is attempting to cash in on their success.Hence, the development deal.

 

Not that you want to acknowledge.

There has been plenty of evidence. Emails, phone conversations, contracts, financial gains from questionable sources, and whistleblowers from varying agencies testifying. The fact that Hunter does drugs on a grand scale is enough to question the whole Biden family. What kind of people do drugs? Criminals do. And your current illegitimate POTUS covers up what his son did and does along with himself using government agencies to cover their tracks.

If you bothered to look at what was provided, you'll see all the evidence. But because it's not obvious to you, there is none. Is that why there's no evidence?

 

Wow, I didn't know that my asthma and high blood pressure meds make me a criminal.

 

ILLICIT DRUGS, GEEZ US!!!!



Yeah, because they don't, that's why you made that statement.

 

No corruption at all!

• The Biden Family Received Millions of Dollars from Foreign Sources:Bank records show the Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies. The Committee has identified payments to Biden family members from foreign companies while he served as Vice President and after he left public office.
• The Biden Family Used Business Associates’ Companies to Receive Foreign Funds: Despite creating many companies after Vice President Biden took office, the Biden family used business associates’ companies to receive millions of dollars from foreign companies.
• Attempts to Conceal Large Financial Transactions: After foreign companies sent money to business associates’ companies, the Biden family received incremental payments over time to different bank accounts. These complicated financial transactions appear to be meant to conceal the source of the funds and reduce the conspicuousness of the total amounts made into the Biden bank accounts.
• Chinese Nationals Hid the Source of the Money: Chinese nationals and companies with significant ties to Chinese intelligence and the Chinese Communist Party hid the source of the funds paid out to the Bidens by layering domestic limited liability companies. The Biden family and associates’ activities in coordination with Chinese nationals and their corporate entities appear to be an attempt to engage in financial deception. Multiple Biden family members received money from the Chinese after it passed through an associate’s account. Additionally, Hunter Biden received money directly into his company’s account from a Chinese-controlled entity.
• Biden Family and Associates’ Activities in Romania Indicate Influence Peddling Scheme: The Biden family and associates’ activities in Romania bear clear indicia of a scheme to peddle influence from 2015 to 2017. While Vice President Biden lectured Romania on corruption and ethics, the Bidens received over a million dollars from a company controlled by a Romanian individual accused of corruption, Gabriel Popoviciu, through a Biden family associate.

 

Biden ''family''? Wow I only voted for Joe and no other Biden works in Gov't that I'm aware of BUT


This guy who worked for Cheeto and is married to his daughter,

Before Giving Billions to Jared Kushner, Saudi Investment Fund Had Big Doubts

Before committing $2 billion to Mr. Kushner’s fledgling firm, officials at a fund led by the Saudi crown prince questioned taking such a big risk.

...Those objections included: “the inexperience of the Affinity Fund management”; the possibility that the kingdom would be responsible for “the bulk of the investment and risk”; due diligence on the fledgling firm’s operations that found them “unsatisfactory in all aspects”; a proposed asset management fee that “seems excessive”; and “public relations risks” from Mr. Kushner’s prior role as a senior adviser to his father-in-law, former President Donald J. Trump, according to minutes of the panel’s meeting last June 30.


But days later the full board of the $620 billion Public Investment Fund — led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, Saudi Arabia’s de facto ruler and a beneficiary of Mr. Kushner’s support when he worked as a White House adviser — overruled the panel.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.html

NO PAYWALL

https://archive.ph/5qBdU

November 6, 2018

China grants 18 trademarks in 2 months to Trump, daughter
https://apnews.com/article/0a3283036d2f4e699da4aa3c6dd01727


Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/business/ivanka-trump-china-trademarks.html

Ivanka Trump brand secures China trademarks on day US president met Xi Jinping
Donald Trump’s daughter sparks ethics concerns after gaining approval in country where US business feels increasingly unwelcome
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...na-trademarks-day-us-president-met-xi-jinping

Ivanka’s Trademark Requests Were Fast-Tracked In China After Trump Was Elected
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...hina-after-trump-was-elected/?sh=2613309e1d60

LIV Golf’s $50 million season-ending championship moved from Saudi Arabia to Trump National Doral

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/11/sport/liv-golf-trump-saudi-team-championship-spt-intl/index.html

Through Ties to Saudis, Golf Deal Promises Benefits to Trump
The new alliance between the PGA Tour and LIV Golf is the latest example of how the former president’s relationship with Saudi Arabia has yielded gains, and criticism, for both.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/us/politics/trump-liv-golf-saudi-arabia.html

 

What is this thread about, any clue? It's about Biden and Co.
But you can detract from the above because of special needs.

 

Got it, you don't want to talk about the ONLY family so far who have been CONVICTED or found guilty, Cheeto and HIS family

Gosh I sure hope the GQP isn't going down this Bengahzzzzzzzzzzzi road that went nowhere with Hillary

 

If I did, I'd be on those threads, hey. A bit difficult for you to understand or something?

 

The Biden Crime Family and International Bribes.


Bribed Joe Is A Corrupt Crime Family Boss.

He'll likely do time if the GOP wins the White House in 2024.

“Understanding the regulatory environment,” Archer translated, “means selling access. . . . That’s how I interpreted it. That’s how most people on Wall Street interpret it, whether they admit it or not.”

'To show you how very much they care, politicians promise to save the planet, reduce emissions, clean the water, eliminate workplace hazards, stabilize the banking system, and basically achieve “progress” in every minute aspect of life by enacting regulations. The movers in this process are lobbyists — some working for entrenched businesses who ask to be regulated not out of their love of humanity but because they can withstand it while their upstart would-be competitors can’t; and some representing pragmatists who recognize that if you’re not at the table then you’re on the menu. The result is an ever-expanding, fee-laden regulatory maze that generates income for lawyers, accountants, and most of all “consultants,” those solons who possess that special “understanding of the regulatory environment” — or, more succinctly, who’ve “got a guy.”'

'If you’ve got a visa problem, they’ve got a guy at the State Department. If you need a permit, they’ve got a guy at every agency. If your nephew gets crosswise with the law, they’ve got a guy at the police department — and at the DA’s office, just in case. They’ve always got a guy someplace who can fix your problem, or at least get your problem to the top of the pile while the saps without a guy are dazed, confused, and harassed by the “regulatory environment.”'

'The vice president of these United States of America is about as big as it gets in the kahuna business.'

 

'When Hunter Biden’s dad — a gaffe-prone Washington graybeard whose fading career we can thank Barack Obama for reviving — became vice president, the Biden family “brand” became a cash cow.'

'“I never discussed business with my son” line, not only notoriously untrue but implausible, was first downgraded to (as White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre put it) “the president was never in business with his son.” That fib has now been shredded by Archer’s blunt acknowledgment of what was already obvious: The now-president was in numerous business meetings with his son and the Chinese, Ukrainian, Russian, and other partners who paid dearly for the Biden “brand” while, as vice president, Joe Biden steered the “regulatory environment” known as American foreign policy.'

But there is no evidence! They chant like an incantation.

'To take just one example, there is already evidence that Mykola Zlochevsky’s corrupt Ukrainian energy company, Burisma, bribed Biden and his family to the tune of millions of dollars, and that during that payment stream — which included Hunter’s sinecure on the company board and, Zlochevsky told an FBI informant, $10 million in money transfers — the then–vice president pressured the U.S.-dependent Ukrainian government to fire Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor who was investigating the company.'

'Joe Biden was the business.'

'Without the now-president, there would have been no Biden brand. Influence-peddling only pays when there is influence to be peddled. Access can only be sold if it is access to someone. Joe Biden is what Hunter Biden was selling. It is risible to hand-wring over whether Joe and Hunter “discussed business” when Joe’s status and the access to power it provided to those willing to pay was the business.'

'And sure, the business does occasionally call for some hands-on services — Shokin was fired because of pressure brought to bear on the reluctant Ukrainian government, and when Hunter extorted his Chinese partner, Henry Zhao, invoking the name of Joe who (Hunter said) was sitting right there with him waiting for Zhao to call, the WhatsApp message read as if it were written by a mobster.'

 

The cracks are getting HUGE. Did you see that the House uncovered Bribed Biden coordinating with Facebook to systematically violate the protected speech of Americans who said things that Bribed Biden's Administration didn't want said?

 

I did come across an article similar to what you described a while ago. Interesting to see how the Dems/JB need to go to those lengths to create and maintain the political stranglehold on people by censoring their free speech. Are both the Dems and JB scared their house of cards will topple should they let people speak their minds? Yes, I would think so.

 

Latest ‘Facebook Files’ Confirm Biden Admin Censors Think You’re Too Stupid To Govern Yourself

The White House put immense pressure on the Big Tech company to limit what Americans were exposed to online.

President Joe Biden’s White House demanded an increase of censorship from Facebook in 2021, new emails reveal — confirming once again that the administration believes Americans are stupid.

In part three of what he deemed the “Facebook Files,” Republican Rep. Jim Jordan released more communications obtained from Facebook detailing the immense pressure the Big Tech company received from the executive branch to limit what Americans saw online.

Emails show Courtney Rowe, then-White House director of strategic communications and engagement for Covid-19 response, praising Facebook in April 2021 for offering the White House suppression data “broken down by region and demographics.” One sentence later, she petitioned the Big Tech company to answer “How do we work with you all to push back on it[?]” because she believed that “if someone in rural Arkansas sees something on FB, it’s the truth.”

 

New Files Show Biden Admin Forced Facebook To Censor “True Information” On Vaccine Side Effects

Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee Jim Jordan released a second batch of files Friday showing that the Biden administration was forcing Facebook to censor content relating to COVID vaccines, including what employees there described as “true information”.

Why do articles #198 and this one not surprising to those with their finger on the pulse?

 

Still controlling the narratives.

Twitter, Facebook Regularly Coordinated With Biden Admin To Censor Users

Newly released internal emails from Facebook and Twitter show an extensive effort to coordinate with the Biden administration to censor users, according to a Thursday release of information by GOP Attorneys General Eric Schmitt of Missouri and Jeff Landry of Louisiana.

Throughout the emails, officials within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Health and Human Services (HHS) emailed Facebook and Twitter employees with instructions on flagging instances of alleged misinformation and guided them with talking points to counter allegedly false narratives on the platforms.

In one instance, a CDC official asked Facebook for monthly meetings to plan “debunking” strategies, while in another case a White House official requested the removal of an Anthony Fauci parody account.