And now, the TRUTH: Archer's actual testimony--Hunter may have sold sizzle, but no steak.

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I am not like you. In other words, I do not "live" in the scandal world. The extent of my involvement thus far is that I joined this thread where you and 3 or 4 other scandal lovers have been posting on this subject like your life depended upon it.

For the fourth time now, please move on. This nonstop poo flinging that is your trademark is colossally boring.

 

You have to prove the following:

1. Prove that his business wasn't legitimate.

2. Exclude all of the legit reasons for having an LLC, with proof.

Which are:

1. Asset Protection: Shell LLCs can be used to protect assets from creditors. By holding assets within a separate legal entity, individuals can create a barrier that might deter frivolous lawsuits or shield assets from legitimate creditor claims.
   
   
2. Real Estate Investments: Shell LLCs are often used to hold real estate investments, keeping them separate from personal assets. This separation can limit liability related to the properties, such as if someone were to be injured on the property.
   
   
3. Tax Planning and Efficiency: Some businesses use Shell LLCs for legitimate tax planning and structuring. They might create an LLC in a jurisdiction with favorable tax laws, as long as it aligns with the rules and regulations of the jurisdictions involved.
   
   
4. Simplifying Business Structure: Large corporations may use Shell LLCs to simplify their organizational structure. By creating separate legal entities for different aspects or divisions of the business, they can make the management and administration of these divisions more streamlined.
   
   
5. Joint Ventures and Special Projects: Shell LLCs can be used to facilitate joint ventures, collaborations, or special projects between different businesses. By creating a new legal entity, the involved parties can clearly define the relationship and responsibilities for that specific venture.
   
   
6. Privacy: Some individuals or businesses use Shell LLCs to maintain privacy. While this can be a contentious issue, there are legitimate reasons someone might want to keep their financial matters private, such as personal security or competitive business considerations.
   
   
7. Facilitating Cross-Border Transactions: Shell LLCs can be instrumental in facilitating international business transactions, by complying with various jurisdictions' legal and tax requirements.
   
   
8. Conduit for Investments: Investment funds often utilize shell companies to pool investments or channel funds into specific projects. This allows for more efficient management of the investments and may offer tax advantages depending on the jurisdictions involved.
   
   
9. Estate Planning: Shell LLCs can be used in estate planning to manage and distribute assets according to the wishes of an individual, potentially providing tax benefits and facilitating the process.
   
   
10. Compliance with Foreign Laws: In some cases, countries may have restrictions on foreign ownership of certain assets. Creating a local entity may allow for compliance with those laws, enabling legal business operations within that country.
    

 

"In short, Hunter sold sizzle, but no steak."

As another writer noted on another forum, seems the family Biden got rich on all that sizzle.

 

Clearly there is evidence, but what you are saying is that there is not irrefutable proof. Very few if any investigations of this magnitude including this level of high level entrenched governemnt officals is going to have irrefutable proof unless anduntil extensive investigation such as that undertaken by MUeller is going to provide irrefutable proof. Even with such an investigation, as evidenc ed by Mueller, is not necessarily going to prove what you wanted to prov e, but at that level of investigation there is a chance to find irrefutable proof.

I would not advocate that a Mueller level investigation be concluded before an election, but with Mueller as a guide, that should not be an issue because that investigation took over 2 years of im not mistaken. Problem solved.

 

Meh, you are fooling no one with the last second "summation".

 

I don't have to prove anything to be suspicious. No one has identified a single Biden business which would require an LLC. Then on top of that, they were shell companies meaning no identifiable business existed.

 

No.... you have to show the DOJ investigations and what they found out with 1-10... it is their job... until you can provide the DOJ proof and evidence then you can not make a claim one way or another...

 

What I'm saying is there is nothing but allegations. Allegations Joe received money, that he was involved in Hunter's dubious business deals, that he sold influence. No real evidence, not even a whisper of real evidence, nothing to suggest he did something illegal. This comes down Repubs desperate need to create doubt after years of fruitless digging and digging.

 

Allegations and some basic logic, which harkens back to my first contribution to this thread....

Does it seem likely to you that people that are paying tens of millions of dollars would repeatedly buy sizzle without any steak? I could understand fooling someone once perhaps, but repeatedly?

That seems highly unlikely, especially with people that possess that type of money. You can make your argument in the theoretical sense, but from a practical standpoint, this would require these people to be abject idiots. When that kind of money is spent, tangible results are both expected and demanded. Saying hello on the phone most certainly does not suffice.


I realize at this juncture there is not proof positive of anything, but above outlines MORE than enough justification for a truly thorough investigation.

 

Where's the actual quote that substantiates the claims?

 

It isn't the job of the DOJ to investigate until they actually have reasonable cause to do so. You guys have failed spectacularly to provide.

 

Interesting... please show us the DOJ investigations into this "reasonable cause".... actually "reasonable suspicion" is the low bar needed to start a DOJ investigation and these "reasonable suspicion" claims are well within those boundaries

from the House Oversight Committee memo

https://nypost.com/2023/05/10/comer-shows-bidens-got-1m-from-convicted-romanian-businessman/

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploa...1555.jpg?resize=791,1024&quality=75&strip=all
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploa...1556.jpg?resize=791,1024&quality=75&strip=all

 

Where is the DOJ investigations into these "reasonable suspicion" that Comer has uncovered?

Here is the memo
Comer Reveals New Evidence in Biden Family’s Influence Peddling Schemes
https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-new-evidence-in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/
first memo
https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Bank-Records-Memo-3.16.23.pdf

second memo 36 page
https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Bank-Memorandum-5.10.23.pdf

 

The trump turd polishers will never put their country ahead of their great orange hope.
Remember that many of these people already wanted to break up the country by secession, so pandering to a seditious crook comes naturally.
It is depressing that so many still want to put trump ahead of their country, but we've always had a sordid underbelly as a nation.
We've managed to maintain the strength of our democracy and institutions by keeping the worst elements of society on the fringe, but trump has used them to shore up his support and let them into the mainstream. Think of Steve Bannon for instance.
We need to throw trump and his ilk back into the sewer before they completely ruin the country.

 

Please show us the DOJ investigations into the "reasonable suspicion" 170 SAR's that the Biden family has acquired... TOTALLY UNHEARD OF in our country...

Please show us the DOJ investigations into this SAR.... definitely "reasonable suspicion" stuff right here...I guess that is why the banks call them "Suspicious activity reports "........what did Joe Biden know and when did he know it? Was Joe involved.... did Joe get a kick back? A honest and thorough DOJ investigation would find out one way or another...

https://media.marcopolousa.org/pdf/bidensar1.pdf

 

I regret to inform you that the Burden of proof is on the accusers, not the accused.

 

No..... the burden to investigate "reasonable suspicion" is on the DOJ.. that is their job..... you have provided no evidence or proof from a DOJ investigation.... so you are dismissed.

 

THe burden of proof is on the accuser,. not the accused.

Suspicion isn't probable cause.

The mere establishment of shells is NOT probable cause, just as running down the street isn't probable cause running from a crime.

The ONUS is on the ACCUSE to prove PROOF that the shells are not legitimate, and that must be establish BEFORE anyone is called
into questioning. Investigations require predication.

 

so Republicans had nothing all along, figures

 

The DOJ does not release information on ongoing investigations. Clearly, you have no clue.

But this is what is known:

The DOJ has been investigating Hunter for 5 years by Trump appointed US Attorney David Weiss, and during that period, not one criminal referral from the special prosecutor assigned to investigate him has been made on Joe Biden. If there were evidence, he would have found it by now, and there would have been a referral and indictments of Hunter and Biden. Weiss was under Trump admin for 3 years, and the most he's come up with is a FARA, but that's not proof of corruption, and filing taxes late, that's not proof of corruption, and lying on a gun background check application, which is not proof of corruption.

No proof of wrongdoing by Joe Biden has thus far been produced.


That is the inescapable, incontrovertible, immutable, irrefutable fact .

Besides, you don't really care about corruption. Hell, Jared Kushner leveraged his position as Senior WH Advisor to earn a $25,000,000 per year management fee on a $2,000,000,000 fund acquisition he got from the murderous Mohammed Bin Salman, a connected his father-in-law, as president, helped him make, which allowed Jared, just a few months out of office, to secure the deal, noting that Jared has NO experience with managing investment funds.

If you don't care about that,. you really don't care about corruption, you just want an excuse to justify your hatred of the Bidens.

BINGO.

 

SARs justify looking, but not accusing.

SARS are not evidence, says so right on the govt's website.

 

The Bidens are not 'rich' by rich standards, which would presume far more than just the few million Hunter's and Joe's net worth are.

Hunter's net worth is estimated to be $1 - $4 million
https://www.thisnation.com/politics/people/hunter-biden-net-worth-bio/
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/lawyers/hunter-biden-net-worth/

There is another source saying it's in the hundreds of millions, but it's not based on reality

Joe Biden's net worth is about $8 - 9 million.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michel...-how-much-joe-biden-is-worth/?sh=44a1873e461b
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/democrats/joe-biden-net-worth/

These values are, today, upper middle class, or lower upper class, but not really rich, by a rich man's measure, which would in the hundreds of millions.

Burisma paid Hunter about $1 million per year,. it got it's 'Brand' it's eye candy, it's a straight ahead exchange, value for value, and one million to an international corporation is a drop in the bucket.

 

LMAO…too bad that in the real world that level of denial is recognized as patently false.

 

Reality is against maga. We warned them that everything trump touches turns to ****, but they wouldn’t listen.
Now they’re stuck like Sisyphus trying forever to distract from the diarrhea of crimes committed by their orange dotard.