Republicans pushed almost 400 "education intimidation" bills in past two years.

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  1. bobobrazil

    bobobrazil Well-Known Member

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    whatever you say, by the way i have no affinity toward marxism, thats that RW media junk talking points, every new idea is fiction till put into action, the automobile was fiction once, OLD ideas got us here, by the way 1984 was written in 1948, eh simply reversed the numbers, it describes thing already occurring in parts of the world
     
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  2. LangleyMan

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    Not just anywhere because taxpayers want a return on their money.
    Good luck finding an elementary school explaining genders in anything more than what's needed for young people to get along in a school setting.
    What are you going to do if the private schools in your community are far more liberal than you like?
     
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    Republicans pushed almost 400 "education intimidation" bills in past two years.

    They can't fix bad education by passing laws. A 2 by 4 on the side of the head might be more effective.
     
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    Liberal parents want schools to transition their children? And not tell them?
     
  5. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right. Passing a tsunami of new laws to dictate what teachers can and cannot say is only an example of government micromanagement, and it not going to fix anything, and doubt they even expect it to fix anything since they target mostly imaginary problems.
     
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    I’ve never seen a Party suck so much at teaching our children yet complain so much about doing anything about it.

    Are you even aware there’s a problem with our kids grades?

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: you Dems get to have a say about education just as soon as you stop sucking balls at teaching kids core curriculum.

    until then, you are the problem and having long winded diatribes about your worthless interpretation about what republicans are doing is just as worthless.
     
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  7. Chickpea

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    This is what happens when we violate the wall of separation between school and state.
     
  8. Shutcie

    Shutcie Newly Registered Donor

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    I'm saying that for the last 50 years liberals have been forcing their views into the school system.
    Why is this such a stretch to just take my words at face value?
    Why do you have to try and change the meaning of my words to fit your narrative?
     
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    Right, because conservatives sat on the sidelines not participating in what was going on in their own kids schools. Not sure why it’s so difficult for you to come to grips with that. Must be because of YOUR narrative. Keep playing the victim if you like.
     
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  10. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    (BING AI) Here are some examples of laws/bills enacted by Republican state legislatures that punish librarians for allowing books on the shelves of the library under subjects the legislatures consider inappropriate, while not defining clearly what they mean by ‘inappropriate’:
    (each are hotlinked to the source story)

    How would you like to be a librarian with that hanging over your head?

    That, in and of itself, is only part of the problem, and if you don't consider the greater issue, as Leejah Miller, in the above video illustrates, you are not seeing the greater picture. It has to do with the chilling effect where they are punishing librarians, who, rather than undergo the stress of defending themselves in a court, will just leave out any and all books that have any reference to sex, LGBT, etc from the shelves, much of it good reference works and literature. It's the chilling effect that is the issue, watch her video.
     
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    Can you underline the part you find objectionable?


    Sec. 3. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b), a person who knowingly or intentionally:

    (1) disseminates matter to minors that is harmful to minors;

    (2) displays matter that is harmful to minors in an area to which minors have visual, auditory, or physical access, unless each minor is accompanied by the minor's parent or guardian;

    (3) sells, rents, or displays for sale or rent to any person matter that is harmful to minors within five hundred (500) feet of the nearest property line of a school or church;

    (4) engages in or conducts a performance before minors that is harmful to minors;

    (5) engages in or conducts a performance that is harmful to minors in an area to which minors have visual, auditory, or physical access, unless each minor is accompanied by the minor's parent or guardian;

    (6) misrepresents the minor's age for the purpose of obtaining admission to an area from which minors are restricted because of the display of matter or a performance that is harmful to minors; or

    (7) misrepresents that the person is a parent or guardian of a minor for the purpose of obtaining admission of the minor to an area where minors are being restricted because of display of matter or performance that is harmful to minors;

    commits a Level 6 felony.

    (b) This section does not apply if a person disseminates, displays, or makes available the matter described in subsection (a) through the Internet, computer electronic transfer, or a computer network unless:

    (1) the matter is obscene under IC 35-49-2-1;

    (2) the matter is child pornography under IC 35-42-4-4; or

    (3) the person distributes the matter to a child less than eighteen (18) years of age believing or intending that the recipient is a child less than eighteen (18) years of age.

    As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.33. Amended by P.L.59-1995, SEC.4; P.L.3-2002, SEC.4; P.L.140-2006, SEC.35; P.L.158-2013, SEC.648.
     
  12. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You need to do two things:

    Read the last paragraph of my comment to which you just responded.

    then watch Leejah's video. The subject is highly nuanced and it cannot be explained very well in 25 words or less.
     
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    I don't need videos to make my arguments and do not watch videos people post to make their arguments for them. I posted the actual text and asked which part you find objectionable. That way we can have an honest discussion.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you want to find the truth, Miller has it. I can't do a better job and it really needs an in depth exploration.

    If you are unwilling to watch the the video, then i will conclude you are not interested in finding the truth.

    If I could convey her 'message' in a paragraph, with the impact she has delivered it, a message that requires impact for it's true meaning, I would have done it.

    I just can't. watch the video or this conversation is over.
     
  15. LangleyMan

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    School libraries aren't promoting porn. Republican radicals are attacking public schools because they're the "weak link." Teachers' unions aren't used to fighting rightwing radicals.

    Years ago, my district's school board was taken over by Trump types. Teachers sick of being attacked with outright lies and subjected to star chamber proceedings fought back by holding school open houses, meeting with parents, etc. The teachers' union worked with conservatives to oust the radicals and replace them with a conservative school board. All seven incumbents were booted out in the next election.
    I don't think schools should promote pornography and I'm telling you they don't. You're swallowing the Big Lie and are helping drive good teachers out of teaching.
    Stop accusing me of promoting porn. Do you "get it?"
     
  16. LangleyMan

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    Why do schools need to be owned and operated by the state? Seems kind of silly. Like there would be all kinds of political wrangling over what happened in the school.
     
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    I posted the actual text so we could discuss the truth and not dishonest representations of the text, like "Education intimidation". This way, we can have an honest discussion. Is there a portion of the actual text you find objectionable?
     
  19. LangleyMan

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    Really? What is the BS the right is promoting about schools? They dog whistled the bigots with absurd claims teachers are telling white kids they should be ashamed of being white. Extremists have dropped that one to say kids are being "groomed" for homosexuality and transsexuality. Lies.

    Then to top it off, you support the Orange Oaf who tried to steal the 2020 election.
     
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    School choice works for urban suburban areas, but it has problems in rural areas because the population isn't large enough to support multiple schools.
     
  21. Chickpea

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    Why do schools need to be owned and operated by the state?
     
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    Nonsense the parents who have seen it in there grade school kids school library are the ones complaining
     
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    Because Democrats are of the opinion that they need to control every thing.
     
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    Is the material from the school? We had rightwingers making up stories about what's in the school library. We took a computer list of books in the library of a school the liars had been attacking and had proof at the school board meeting the parent was lying.
    There are more than 10,000 school districts, 100,000 schools and 4,000,000 school teachers in this country. You can always find something wrong somewhere, but the idea teachers are telling white kids they should be ashamed of being white is absurd. Kids aren't sorting through porn in school libraries, either.
    It's explaining that the mild stuff in some school libraries--homosexuals kissing, for instance--is nothing significant when every kid with a smartphone, or knows a kid with a smartphone, has access to serious porn. Parents should realize kids see a lot more than many patents think they do.
    What are you talking about? Kids have access to porn on their tablets and smartphones.
    It doesn't give them a right to attack teachers, administrators and schools with sensational claims. Their kids aren't being abused by the school.
     
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    The left needs to get on board and stop this nonsense. We are talking about children not grown adults in college. The vast majority of sensible adults want to limit their kids exposure to certain things and they should. There is plenty of things for children to be learning and not enough time to learn without including all this other nonsense the left is complaining is taken out of the libraries and classrooms.
     

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