How would Russia, China, Iran & North Korea react if....?

It is? https://money.usnews.com/investing/... decades now, there has,it pays to be prudent.

 

Ask yourself why did the dollar become the global standard for trade. Does China have what it takes to compete with the US? I don't think so.

Countries that depend heavily on foreign investments don't stand a chance to defeat the dollar.

 

If somebody had told me 30 years ago that China would become the largest manufacturer in the world I would have laughed in their face. America won WWII solely due its manufacturing capacity. That no longer exists. China is currently outproducing America 2 to 1 but has the capacity to outproduce America 5 to 1 or 10 to 1.



Thirty years ago, if somebody has told me the China would dominate in patents in the most cutting edge fields in the world, I would have laughed.


Having watched the Chinese government succeed in everything it did over 30 years while the American government fail in everything it did over the same 30 years, I have to ask on what basis do you think China will fail in its attack on the American dollar?

 

It is inevitable that China's economy will be bigger than ours. But the west has already begun moving away from China as a manufacturing hub.

China, ‘factory of the world,’ is losing more of its manufacturing and export dominance, latest data shows
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/20/chi...ld-is-losing-its-manufacturing-dominance.html

Foreign companies are shifting investment out of China as confidence wanes, business group says
https://apnews.com/article/china-foreign-companies-investment-trade-a47887e2c89050d291ebd169b0989cc4

 

Why do you say that?

 

Yeah right bankrupting Dutch farmers and forcing back to wood burning stoves sure is making NATO stronger.

 

AS more and more people find they can't afford even cheap chinese crap...

 

Very few countries have an international financial presence where their currency is used worldwide and in most cases of international payments. US Dollar, the Euro, and the Russian Ruble are all international currencies. China's RMB is trying to make that, but it is in its infancy and is more talk than practice. For sanctions to work, that currency must be used, and the US, where the dollar is the defacto international currency on trade from oil to financial transactions, we are best at using sanctions to get our way. If a country doesn't, then its banking system may not be able to use the dollar as a reserve currency or accept international transactions in dollars. And banks want those dollars, and is part of our demand in the M2 Money Supply chain. So, that is why those countries cannot and will not use sanctions, generally, and the only country to do so is Russia. The EU can if it wants to, but it won't considering we are economic allies.

Second, Trump signed the peace accords with the Taliban in 2020, giving us 18 months to withdraw from Afghanistan. He withdrew some 18,000 troops and most of those troops were in the provinces where the Taliban was strong. We left our Afgan Army in charge of the base camps they built, but the taliban basically laid a 21st century seige where no food or communications can get through. When Biden became president, he put a pause, and then hastily withdrew the forces.

The ICC has investigated the US on a few occasions. First in Afghanistan when we first invaded, then in Iraq when we invaded both in 1992, and in 2003, and so forth. But no American can be brought to the court because we don't participate in these courts, and that is a GOP mantra to this day. The ICC can investigate all they want, but nowhere can they have an American be arrested and placed on trial. But that had nothing to do why Trump signed the peace treaty in which he wanted the Taliban to be at Camp David and the WH. Thankfully, his advisors convinced him otherwise.

US has traditionally been part of NATO. Australia is part of the Commonwealth and is unoffically part of NATO. If the UK, along with NATO goes to war, hypothetically, so will the members of the British Commonwealth too. But no one is talking about replacing NATO. Another military pact, similar to the Warsaw Pact might come into foreplay with Iran, Russia, North Korea, China, and a few other countries, especially countries loyal to Putin. Even South Africa may join that pact too. If Trump does become President again, I fear he will withdraw the US from NATO, which would be a bad thing IMO. And this is a what if thread if a Presidential candidate said those things.

Apartheid came down because of President Kirk. Boycotts were not working at all on South Africa for 30-plus years. But the white settlers were getting tired of the racial clashes and they were the ones who chose to end apartheid besides the Boars who wanted to keep it there.

Dictatorships are not paranoid, well except for Kim Jung Un, and that has been going on since the 1940s with his father and grandfather, but most dictatorships are very rational in how they approach things. We have supported dictators in Cuba, Batista for instance, Argentina, the Philippines, and so forth. We just looked the other way most of the time because of our policy against communism took precedence.

Iranians do speak Farsi, but when dealing with the Q'ran, you need to speak Arabic, generally. And Farsi is in the Arabic Language Tree BTW. Sort of like the Romantic languages of Spanish, Italian, Romanian, and French. Once you learned one of those languages, it is quite easy to learn the others. Same with Arabic and Farsi. But Iran will use terrorism and will use the internet to get those terrorist actions on US Soil. All they need to do is find a young, disgruntled, isolated young man or woman, and constantly use propaganda to get that person to do their wishes.

For spying is is the game. Israel spies on us, and we spy on them. We use human intelligence for this to get information about what they are really thinking, or even eavesdrop on conversations. The trick is not to get found out, like what happened when Obama was president. And that was going on for over 10 years by the CIA. That is their job.

Winning is about strategy. China has some very moden equipment, some of which are capable of going toe to toe with our F22, F18s, F35, and so forth. Russia is the same except it appears they are afraid to use them in the Ukranian war. But they are very capable. It is unclear how capable NK's nuclear arsenal is to reach the US, but I don't think that would be their goal. More like South Korea and Japan if we decided to launch first. China with its DF 50 missiles are more than capable of reaching the US and are presumably highly accurate. But that is why such talk by the OP is more what if than reality.

 

No idea what you're talking about there. How are we bankrupting Dutch farmers?

 

Denying them access to nitrogen fertilizer. Another of the many stupid ideas proposed to fight climate change that has already produced famine in Sri Lanka

 

Where did you get the idea that sanctions have ever been terribly effective? As near as I can tell the only thing sanctions have ever done is either a.lead to war, or b provide effective cover for thuggish regimes to eliminate there local opposition and then yell that they starved to death because of the sanctions.

 

They a. keep these regimes poor, b. limit their ability to build up militarily and cause trouble because of a., and c. destabilize the regimes in the long term as the people they oppress grow weary of the poverty coupled with dictatorial control over their lives. But if you're short sighted and ignore the macro picture and the longer term, you may fail to see the benefits.

 

Not that I've ever noticed. Most of those regimes are poor to begin with because such thuggery begets poverty the way dogs beget puppies.

 

I suspect there will be a private meeting held secretly somewhere.

I suspect someone will give the order.

I suspect some time after that, around the end of September or early October from a place no one would ever expect, three IRBMs will be launched each with warhead around 400-450 kilotons. Perhaps from container ships, one in the Pacific Ocean and two in the Atlantic, Maybe even one in the Gulf of Mexico.

The US might not even detect those launches, and even if they did, they wouldn't be quite sure what to make of them but none of that matters because about 6 minutes later they'll be airburst around 50-85 miles above the Earth's surface.

No one will see them or hear them.

By Christmas Day, more than 100 Million Americans will have died of thirst, hunger, disease, illness, injury, violence or their own hand.

By the 1st Day of Spring, there'll be less than 100 Million Americans and they'll be killing each other for food, and killing each other to eat as food.

By the end of Summer, there'll be less than 50 Million Americans, and at the 1-Year Anniversary, probably 12-15 Million survivors.

And then the world will be at peace.

 

That is some sick fantasizing right there. Crack a window, man.

 

You ignore the obvious. What if the U.S.is well prepared for this EMP attack? Not hard to do.

 

I totally agree. Forgive me, I'm West Point grad... not a Wharton School grad. But you are totally correct.

 

That hardly changes the attitude of those who experienced what happened, remember it and bear a grudge. There are many incidents that provoked negative feelings toward the U.S. We simply need to be realistic about this. Not self flagellating, just honest with ourselves.

 

Ahahah.... The populism of the US administration has led to the creation of an army that does not know how to fight, a former senior Pentagon adviser, Colonel Douglas McGregor, said on the social network X (former Twitter).
"The United States is creating an army that does not know how to fight. For many Americans, joining the ranks of the modern armed forces is equivalent to simultaneously joining antifa, the BLM, the transgender lobby and the teachers' union," McGregor writes.
According to him, it is necessary to face the facts. Such a practice in the ranks of the US Armed Forces should be stopped, the colonel stressed.
Earlier, McGregor also stated that the US army is losing its capabilities and readiness, because unsuitable candidates are appointed to high posts, and fighters are not encouraged for success in service, discipline also suffers. At the same time, the ex-Pentagon adviser previously indicated that non-nuclear forces of the United States, in case of opposition, are unlikely to be able to hit non-nuclear Russian military forces.
Agree, assessment of the armed forces by the Pentagon adviser are worth much more than yours.

 

We don't start wars but we sure do end them. And now, due to technology advances, we can do a lot to ensure that noncombatant casualties stay at a minimum.

 

If a Democrat would talk sense, I would listen. Unfortunately for Democrats all they can do is talk about crippling climate change regulations, soft on crime policies, tax increases and more give away programs (equity), and a too little, too late approach to the Ukraine which pours more money into the hands of arms manufacturers and does nothing to end the war. Biden has become the worst president of my lifetime, and all the Democrats can offer is more of the same.

The Democrats have gone too far left to warrant support. Unfortunately a few Republicans, like Ron DeSantis, have gone too far right in an effort to pander to the fundamentalist religious vote.

If you want to look at reasonable approaches, start with studying the Eisenhower presidency. We are in another Cold War, and his historians have raised his reputation higher and higher over time. Back in 1960, he was mistakenly perceived as a tired old failure.

 

Because I listen to what economists are predicting largely based on China's population. And I've read Ray Dalio's book, "The Changing World Order."

 

Sounds a lot like what George Orwell was describing in his masterpiece, "1984".

 

Maybe it was inevitable...

 

Funny thing. George Orwell was a leftist, but he had enough sense to see where the movement he supported was headed.