It's time. It's time to repeal the second amendment (revisited)

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Yes I amplified what you wrote. Only the states should get involved in this sort of thing and I don't recommend they do it either.
     
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    it's your claim that I want to ignore the bill of rights I was questioning. I don't but I also support the fourteenth amendment (which the states ratified) that restrict the powers of the several states to restrict the rights set forth in the Bill of Rights
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    In truth, there is no widely accepted standard, and the numbers vary depending on who is counting.

    https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2023/definition-mass-shooting/

    But even if we take the more conservative count from the Gun Violence Archive, a data collection and research group, defines mass shootings as an incident in which at least four people are injured or killed, excluding the shooter. Based on this definition, there have been 460 mass shootings as of August 20th in 2023. That's still a lot more than shootings before columbine.

    https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?page=1

    Shootings are up, it's safe to say, though America isn't safer because of 'more guns'.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The odds of getting killed in a mass shooting is roughly about one in a half million. The media and the democrats have spread hysteria over occurrences which are not worth worrying about. More people are killed in Chicago than by mass shootings. Why is that not a concern?
     
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    Guns aren't the problem. If it wasn't guns it would be ied's using propane tanks. Those are currently nearly as ubiquitous as fire arms and potentially far more dangerous, The problem is people of evil intent not guns. And the lefts obviously faulty attempt to define 'people of evil intent' as 'all people with guns' is also as obviously absurd.
     
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    because it doesn't help the gun banners' agenda?
     
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    A quote from the fourteenth amendment: "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States"
     
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    yeah I support that
     
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    Trouble is the FBI now includes 4 or more dead or wounds as a mass shooting which would include a most of the drive bys in Big blue cities.
     
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    At this time there are more killed by guns in Chicago than by mass shootings in the entire US.
     
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    Missing the point here most of the shootings in chicago are currently being counted as mass shooting even if no one gets killed.
     
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    How many children these days feel terrorized by these shootings in schools? I'd say most of them do, and their mental health is of concern.
    It is a concern, and goes more to the need for the repeal of 2A so we can regulate easier without interference from gun nuts.

    Mass shootings not worth worrying about? So, Let's let the kids live in terror. Thanks a lot.

    As for low percentages, how about my meeting transexuals, which in my entire life, I can count them on my hands, yet you guys have passed hundreds (over 400) of anti-transexual anti-gay laws in recent years. What's that concern about, they aren't harming OR terrorizing anyone?
     
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    most of the kids are probably terrorized by leftwing operatives pretending that school shootings are more likely to cause them harm than the reality that driving to school is far more dangerous,

    what exactly are the ANTI GAY (the alphabet agenda as I call it) laws PASSED BY GUN OWNERS

    your argument proves a point I have made dozens of times-Gun control is a tool that leftwing operatives and advocates use as a weapon against those who are perceived as opposing:

    1) abortion
    2) dudes entering women's sporting events
    3) animal rights extremists
    4) global warming hysterics
    5) the Alphabet agenda
    6) global marxism
    7) "one world" government
    8) open borders

    and all the other poster children of the woke left
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sure, people are the problem and guns amplify people's faults.

    Fixing people is much harder than regulating guns, so we attack the problem on BOTH angles.
     
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    Who is doing the terrorizing? The media and the democrats. Repeating the same thing over and over causes the fear. The chances of a specific child getting killed is less than one in a million.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By penalizing the vast majority because of the sins of a small minority.
     
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    The push to take away AR-15's is ongoing.......
     
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    Ok. Start by taking all mufflers off cars that aren’t registered and taxed and the owners fingerprinted and background checked.

    Also, any car with a taxed, registered muffler can only be driven by the fingerprinted owner and when the fingerprinted owner is not driving it, the car must be locked so nobody including a spouse can drive the car.

    Then get to work on dealerships. Make them get special expensive licenses to sell cars that are capable of exceeding 75 mph. Limit sales of cars that can exceed 75 mph to taxed, fingerprinted, background checked individuals and make it illegal for anyone to own a car that is capable of exceeding 75 mph that was manufactured after 1986.

    Disallow coupes under 200 inches in length and sedans/suvs/vans that can accommodate more than 4 total occupants.

    When you get all that done get back to me. There’s a lot more to go…
     
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    so, find another rifle. You just want one that is scary looking.

    Right?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are also light weight, very comfortable to carry and very accurate.
     
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    Anything and everything can be used to amplify people's evil intent only guns can be used to limit their ability to do so.
     
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    One suspects there are far move kids worried that their teacher secretly wants to castrate them than there are kids worried about being shot.
     
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    Their lives should be of more immediate concern.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    It can do the opposite.

    so, perp X in a crowded theater, starts shooting.

    Every one, all of whom are armed ( in your vision of society, everyone will be armed, eh?) and so a hoard of people start shooting.

    Others join in but are confused on who the bad guy is and shoot innocent people and innocent people shoot him.

    You see,. garyd, when you extend your reasoning to his logical conclusion, the absurdity of it rears it's ugly head.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Give me a break.

    Dismissed.
     

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