Is America a Christian Nation? Should America Be a Christian Nation?

And yet I appear to be more familiar with Jesus's words, than are you. Did you merely forget to supply the Bible verse, I asked for, from which you'd drawn your assertions, about Jesus being against the lawyerly talk of the Pharisees, due to their "many words," confusing the ignorant people? What you do here is precisely the thing that Jesus despised: wearing religion on one's sleeve, and using it, simply to justify oneself.

Yet again, you bear false witness-- in what way did I cherry pick from the Bible, just to "benefit (my) narrative?" It was you, in fact, who'd pretended that what he'd claimed about Jesus's views, was in the Bible, when it is not. You had tried to accredit your own narrative, falsely, under the guise that you were citing the Bible. I'd say that's worse than simply not being a Christian. At least I am not fraudulently misrepresenting the Bible. And remember the Good Samaritan: it's not just what you call yourself-- the way one acts, carries great weight, itself.

 

Right, but atheism is a religion. Banning God from the public square is as against the establishment clause as requiring a god's followers be present.

Atheism is a religion- it is a belief about God. The agnostic has no faith one way or the other. So, our constitution is agnostic. It does not promote faith nor does it deny it.

 

Atheism is not a religion. It is a belief, but it is not a religion. Religions are structured belief systems based upon spirituality, many, but not all, of which center around the worship or a deity or deities. Atheism is not structured nor a system.

 

I don't quote Chapter in verse because it means nothing to secularists. Pearls before swine. Pearls are precious to me. Jesus never quoted Chapter and verse except when confronting the devil. You do, because you wear it on your sleeve like a lawyerly scholar then you pretend you know more than I. I'll let you live with that illusion.

Getting to the "spirit" of this thread, if you'd duly note, I have stated and am not declaring this a Christian Nation. It was founded on Christian principles and I seem to feel many like yourself love to see those go by the wayside. Prayer in school for instance. You got rid of that and now they have gone so far in Kalifornia to suggest if parents don't comply with children and the way they wish to gender identify, they may be in danger of losing their children. That, my friend, if it ever becomes prominent, you will see it hit the fan I can assure you. Government has absolutely no right to declare a religion, but when you put government over God and interfere with family, you have gone down your secular road way to far!

 

Well, he's pitching his "Christian nation" idea as a solution.

There can't be a solution without a mechanism, a pattern of action.

He just hasn't said what actions there would be for his "Christian nation" direction to solve this nation's problems.

If what he means is that Christians should behave more in line with what Jesus said about actually serving (in the sense of Matthew 25:31-end) all others regardless of their beliefs, actions or station in life, that might be absolutely great.

But, I haven't seen evidence that he is that passive.

Billy Graham didn't sing "Onward Christian Soldiers" for nothing. And, neither did do many other protestant church members in the rememberable past.

 

You can drag that out of dictionaries.

But, the fact is that agnostics and atheists make decisions in the same manner.

And, if there were real evidence, it would be accepted by both as well.

Practically speaking, it really makes no difference.

 

Atheism and Theism are not religions, but some religions are made from one or both

nope, removing the word "God" from our pledge is not Atheism, it's not pushing a belief in God or disbelief in a God - it's being neutral on the subject

 

Atheism is a belief about God, that He does not exist. That faith is in No way different from the theist's faith, so yeah atheism is a religion. Agnosticism is not a religion, they have no faith one way or the other.

 

Which one??

 

Ooh, Christian sharia law.....how anti-American can you get?

 

What does Jesus think of America calling itself a "Christian Nation"? My guess is He doesn't give a rat's nether region about that.

 

I believe the real problem is not whether or not we declare ourselves a "Christian Nation". The problem is there is no "moral clarity". Americans in general have become so weak in the knees they are afraid to declare ANY truth for fear of offending someone. This is why we drift toward "gender confusion" and other perversions of truth. Many don't see what is coming, but collective forms of governing are crouching at the door to step in. I believe it was Franklin that said "without a moral citizenry, our Republic is lost!"

 

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The US are not a nation. They are a union of sovereign states.

 

Morality has always been in flux. What is ethical is by social consensus. Same sex marriage, marriage between races, women deserving equal rights, some are out about wanting to be a different gender.....things change and usually conservatives are last to get on board. There never has been "moral clarity".
But what interests me is "collective forms of governing are crouching at the door to step in" and what is meant by that.

 

You seem to not know what I want.
I only know there's no god mentioned. That is a fact.

 

It says "Nature's God".

That is a fact, and your "fact" is incorrect.

 

How is atheism a religion?

...
religion
noun
re·li·gion ri-ˈli-jən


Synonyms of religion


1
: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

2
a(1)
: the service and worship of God or the supernatural
(2)
: commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
b
: the state of a religious
a nun in her 20th year of religion


3
: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

 

Post it

 

The bible was written decades after Jesus' death.
How the hell could he quote a bible verse?

 

@dairyair

Here read-

Just in case you were about to call me a liar.

 

Non believers are not holding a belief.
They make a conclusion based on factual evidence.

That's why you have to use faith when describing a religion or a belief in something that doesn't exist.

Without said faith, you could not believe in an unknown unseen thing. Due to lack of evidence.

 

why is religion a topic on a politics board?

 

Just in case, the sentence then refers to opinion. Of mankind.

And as another poster has said, that is really just a letter to England to declare they are leaving.

Now all you have to do is define what is Nature's god?
Why does Nature need a god?

 

Only three attributes to you definition?

Okay.

As to 1., The firm belief that there is not a god is a religious or spiritual belief. What else could you call the faith that there is no god but a belief?

As to 2., Who does the athiest hold in esteem but Man himself. After all, if there is no God then we are in charge. But we ain't really in charge.

As to 3., Yup, it fits the atheist from head to toe. If they ain't so proud of their faith then why are the athiests always giving sermons?

 

Why, in a political bulletin board, are you attacking another member's religion?