DeSantis vows to ‘start slitting throats on day one’

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  1. Grey Matter

    Grey Matter Well-Known Member Donor

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    I just realized that I had not accounted for the fact that many leaders in Evangelical churches are only in it for the money. Well, I reckon that goes at least as far back as Constantine.

    My buddy Joel, I don't think even counts as an Evangelical. Pure prosperity gospel is his schtick. It's so pathetic that people attend Lakewood to listen to his tripe. He pops on ABC13 here in Houston every Sunday right after This Week.

    This Week George gave some air time to Ramaswarmy-rama-ding-dong. It was fascinating watching George's look of confusion and frustration as his attempts to back shama-lama-ding-dong into a corner for his support of the Donald failed miserably. Meh, that's what George gets for giving this brilliant finance grifter airtime in his run for the Presidency.

    Anyway, I generally try to get in some entertainment with watching This Week, even though most of the time lately GS isn't hosting it. I stick around for Joel's joke of the week, they are all usually somewhat amusing.

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    JFJ the cuck, oh man, that was quite the story wannit?
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    Inherited from the founder and self-proclaimed leader of the so-called moral majority.
    Props to him for getting his groove on, I reckon my beef is more properly with the rubes that support him and his ilk.

    I agree pretty much 100% with you that conservatism has lost any meaning what-so-ever under the auspices of the likes of Clarence Thomas, Mitch McConnell, and the King of these rubes - Donald Trump.
    Not to mention their squad of cheerleaders like Bobbitt, um, sorry, Boebert, Green, Gates, Hawley, Grassley, the disgraced Hastert and the likely should be disgraced for similar reasons, Jordan. And then we have the current speaker, spineless McCarthy, rumored widely to joining in with Nunes to have kissed the mushroom shaped "ring" of the Donald at Mar-A-Lago whilst the first Madam reclined on a gaudy chaise lounger covered in a cheap gold rub-n-buff applique.

    I had had the time back in 2020 to build a pretty decent analysis of our national debt going back to JFK. I've yet to update it with Trumps final metrics, but $8B sounds about right.

    It will be interesting to see what I agree should be a very aggressive turnout among women in 2024. This business these Rs have aligned themselves with by forcing women to carry to term whilst simultaneously attacking most every possible social safety-net for these offspring is mindboggling in its inherent lack of anything resembling any sort of consistent approach to governing a nation of 330+ million people.
     
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  2. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    Well reading your comments I have to refer you this article from the classic conservative William F. Buckley on what he thought of Trump:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/01/william-f-buckley-donald-trump-demagoguery-cigar-aficionado/


    Here are two excerpts:

    "What about the aspirant who has a private vision to offer to the public and has the means, personal or contrived, to finance a campaign? In some cases, the vision isn’t merely a program to be adopted. It is a program that includes the visionary’s serving as President. Look for the narcissist. The most obvious target in today’s lineup is, of course, Donald Trump. When he looks at a glass, he is mesmerized by its reflection. If Donald Trump were shaped a little differently, he would compete for Miss America....."

    "But whatever the depths of self-enchantment, the demagogue has to say something. So what does Trump say? That he is a successful businessman and that that is what America needs in the Oval Office. There is some plausibility in this, though not much. The greatest deeds of American Presidents — midwifing the new republic; freeing the slaves; harnessing the energies and vision needed to win the Cold War — had little to do with a bottom line."
     
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    We obviously disagree about Trump. I see an ignorant, foul mouthed, dishonest bounder, who cares about himself first, his family second, and his rich friends first.

    I am sure Trump laughs at the poorly educated people he pretends to love behind their back. While he laughs at them he begs them for money. He begs me for money. No amount of insults on my part get him to leave me alone.

    My hatred for Trump is visceral. I want him to end his life in prison, in debt, and in disgrace. :angered:
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Agreed.
     
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    This "and his rich friends first," should of course be "and his rich friends third." .
     
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    Yeh, it’s kind of like the last republican president retweeting the only good democrat is a dead one or offering to pay his supporters legal bills if they assault someone that is against him.

    All just a big joke!

    It’s ****ing funny, ain’t it?
     
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    Definitely a joke, definitely not funny. Bunch of incompetent f'wits. I mean, wayyyy more than their fair share among the Rs. Hmmm, guess that's what happens when McTurtle and Co. go for a deal with an asshat like Trump. Gee, who could have predicted 74 million would vote for him again in 2020? Or that the 2024 stage would be littered with his detritus, attempting to eck out a double digit margin, by attempting to emulate the brash boy from Jamaica Queens - loved by rural reds no less!!!

    Ya jus cannae make this sort of nonsense up. On second thought I suppose it is a bit amusing, provided one is willing to consider themselves beyond any real world repercussions that go along with having a feckless tribe of wannabe Trumps in charge of the Federal Government of the United States.
     
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    Wait, are you saying you understood this to be hyperbole and you just don't like it, or are you saying you're not sure whether it was hyperbole, and you think he might have actually been talking about murdering people with blades?
     
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    I'll leave it to your imagination to sort out my thoughts on the matter of a potential Potus using such language.
     
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    OK... it sounds like you think people holding or seeking to be elected to office shouldn't use certain language that wouldn't bother you at all if 'normal' people in your life used the same language. Or would you respond similarly to a friend talking about 'slitting throats' (people getting fired) at their work?
     
  11. Grey Matter

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    You're kidding me right? Are you asserting that you don't hold a candidate for the office of the President of the United States to the highest possible standards, whatever they may be in your book? I'm not talking about a supervisor at the office. I'm not even talking about the CEO of the corporation, but that guy would at least have a nice seat in the ballpark.
     
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    Of course they don’t — unless they are a Democrat of course, and then they and their entire family must be beyond reproach.
     
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    No, he is a pansy ass trying to look tough. I doubt the guy has a scar on him, or taken a stitch. I like that he doesn't bring up the Seal stuff. He was simply a legal advisor.
    But beyond that, today I like him for 2028.
     
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    My standards don't include always being formally addressed from a script. Planned speeches and formal language have their place of course, but I wanna hear from them off the cuff as well. Thats how you get a sense of whether they mean what they're saying, when they're saying it as regular human with human colloquialisms, instead of as part of a technical presentation. In this particular case, 'slit some throats' clearly means replace some people with other people that are better, even though it might seem mean. I tend to agree that the leadership at the DoD is the last place we should be tenuring folks.

    That being said, I'm not exactly DeSantos' biggest fan. But I do appreciate how he tends to speak rather plainly instead of like a bureaucrat, or, even worse, a rehearsed actor.
     
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    I like DeSantis.
     
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    I agree with some of DeSantis's policies and some of Trump's policies. DeSantis is Trump without Trump's daily embarrassments caused by Trump's impulsiveness and his repulsive personality.
     
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    this sounds more dangerous than what the 15-year-old asked him, slitting throats of ex-military in government positions because they may not slit the throats of ex-military upon request, really?
     
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    DeSantis acts like a serious adult. Other than some policy agreements there’s no similarities between him and Trump.
     
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    I can't guess why you thought it was funny. I said it was unfortunate.
     
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    This is an old thread not really worthy of much continued traffic. DeSantis has shown himself to be of no consequence as a challenge to your man Trump. The fact that you support Trump, continue to support Trump, well, from point of view, is somewhere in the ballpark of Tom Clancy's novel where the Japs crash a 747 into the Presidential Address of the Joint Session of Congress. Except that Trump is no Jack Ryan. Not even close.

    When Trump tells us the system is rigged, it resonates, because it is. What folks seem incapable of recognizing is that these are the words of a master rigger. 3000+ court cases your preferred next President has to his credit. Almost every single one of them using his money and power and the US Courts to keep from paying his debts.

    What I predict we'll get from a second Trump term will be a whole lot of see you next Tuesdays, like his man Ryan Zinke. Rather than draining the swamp, it only gets filled with gasoline. Think Washington DC is disconnected now? What do you people think it will be like after four more years of Trump?

    The guy that played the US Courts like Jimmy Page or Eddie Van Halen plays a guitar, stacked the Courts, all the way up to the Scotus, with folks that are what, guys like Gorsuck, who will claim to be following the law when opining from the bench that a trucker should have frozen to death rather than go against his corporation's policy.

    Plain talk, eh? Is that what you actually believe you're getting from DJT?
     
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    BA from Yale
    JD from Harvard.

    Not up to your standards, or course.
     

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