Sikh Holocaust of the 1980's vs The Holocaust of the Nazi era?

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Can the Holocaust on the Sikh's be compared with The Holocaust of the Nazi era?

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  2. No

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  3. I do not feel comfortable with this question.... especially as it relates to The Second Amendment!

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  4. This question definitely needs to be studied.. .Hitler studied The Holocaust on the Armenians

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can what happened to tens of thousands of people in India not too many decades in the past be compared with The Holocaust of the Nazi era?

    Is the fact that all of this occurred in a democracy relevant to the usage of the word "Holocaust" to these modern events?


    Does the fact that the Sikh population knew quite a bit about self defence mean that the government of India was somehow justified?????????

    I don't think that you will need to be a genius to notice that this could perhaps be noticed by people who want to do away with THE SECOND AMENDMENT in the USA!!!!!!

    https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Sikh_Holocaust_of_1980s


     
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    I would describe it more as an internal conflict. Religion was a hot-button issue in India, mostly as a result of history and the Muslim mistreatment of Hindus under Muslim local government rule. The Sikhs of course were not directly involved in that, but that is the background why religious tensions were inflamed. The Sikhs are also kind of half-muslim culturally, and are willing to resort to violent militant force and sometimes even revenge. (Persons from all three of those religions are, but especially more so Sikhs and Muslims)

    The cause of the attack on the Temple was that Sikh militants were occupying it, part of a movement to try to break off a piece of India's territory for a Sikh religion "homeland". Obviously, from the perspective of India, these militants were considered terrorists. Remember that 39 years earlier India had been partitioned into separate Hindu and Muslim countries (Pakistan and Bangladesh) with violence within the society so this idea was not unprecedented.

    In any big civil conflict, there are likely going to be some innocent victims who get targeted.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for this exceptionally well informed and helpful comment Kazenatsu.

    I hope that you will not consider that I am diverting this entire topic but...... I am guessing that you already know that I am hoping that Canada and America do not descend into something of an "Economic Holocaust" that could well lead to the impoverishing of hundreds of thousands and even millions of people who are defined as being disobedient according to what is desired by Ottawa and Washington??????

    And yes..... I fear that something far worse than merely an "economic holocaust" could well be possible in America and Canada over the coming five to ten to twenty years. I feel that the Sikh Holocaust is in many ways an even more relevant example from history than the Holocaust of the Nazi era that.... incidentally partly began with Hitler warning German citizens that they could well catch special diseases from Germany's Jewish population!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...y-does-this-scare-you.604753/#post-1073796373






    Personally... I am convinced that the economic holocaust that seems to be in the planning stage will be defeated.... and these next ten years or so will be awesome... but it is imperative that all of us be well informed as to how serious our situation really is at this time!!!!!!!
     
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    I guess you can compare the innumerable differences. But besides both involved people dying at the hands of a government, there are no similarities.

    Jews were targeted by Socialists because Jew was synonymous with capitalist at the time. Socialists believe in making an environment purified of Capitalists, whom they consider to be the great devils. So, the purification of the world of Capitalists involves the purification of the world of Jews. Read Das Capital ("The Jew") and the Jewish Question by Karl Marx.

    While I don't necessarily agree with the Indian government, they seemed to rather sloppily and poorly put down a revolt as oppose to systematically and carefully trying to exterminate Sikhs from India with Religious overtones.
     
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    Untrue.
    The Jews, the socialists and communists were all held responsible for he loss of WWI by Hitler. Lev Trotski and Karl Marx both were Jewish and commies, a double whammy for Hitler. That, and after the war the allied made the Germans pay a debt so high that it turned them into a slave nation. Countries even invaded Germany and ransacked it after WWI when Germany could not pay up. And Hitler blamed pencil pushing Jewish bankers for the state the allied pushed Germany in. And than he added the superior Arian race theme, together with the idea that Germany should contain that race and all German speaking people.


    And that kind of thing does seem to play out in India, with it's fanatic Buddhist population.
     
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    If you do a search on this forum for the name of my third year History professor at St. Francis Xavier University, Hermann Wittgens Ph. D. you will find some more rather intriguing information on the background to the holocaust of the Nazi era.

    Also.... I admit.....
    I am genuinely concerned that all eight billion of us are in the INFORMATION plus ECONOMIC part of WWIII and the death toll could well go into the BILLIONS of lives so.......
    this morning I put out the following writing on Mewe groups as something of an opening gambit in an attempt to save potentially millions of people from an early death!


    If ocean level rise creates twenty to eighty million climate change refugees in Bangladesh alone what percentage of them will be forced to flee to India??????


    IN MY OPINION THE WAY TO DEFEAT THE "INNOVATING TO ZERO" THEORY PUT FORWARD BY BILL GATES IS TO DEFEAT THE HAIRBALL CARBON TAX THEORY PUT FORWARD BY AL GORE IN HIS FILM "AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH!!!!!"

    THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IN MY OPINION IS TO MAKE PEOPLE REALIZE HOW MUCH BETTER AND MORE PRACTICAL IT WOULD BE TO DELIBERATELY DESALINATE SEA WATER ON A LARGE SCALE AND TURN DESERTS GREEN BECAUSE EVERY CUBIC METER OF SEA WATER THAT IS DESALINATED AND ADDED TO THE WATER TABLE OF ISRAEL, JORDAN, ALGERIA, QATAR, SAUDI ARABIA, LIBYA, DUBAI, CALIFORNIA, AUSTRALIA, MEXICO, INDIA.... or any other nations with lots of desert ... is good news for every city and town vulnerable to the threat of rising ocean levels. Most people have no idea how rapidly ocean levels could rise if the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, [that is below sea level], were to begin to crack and slide! BigMedia is also hiding the truth about how rapidly the LAND BASED GREENLAND ICE PACK COULD CRACK AND SLIDE...... A CARBON TAX DOES ESSENTIALLY NOTHING TO PROTECT VULNERABLE REAL ESTATE FROM THE THREAT OF RISING OCEAN LEVELS!!!!!!!

    "Dr. James Hansen has stated that the last time that average global temperatures increased by three degrees, ocean levels rose by 25 meters over only about four centuries. There are 143,000 acres along the Bay of Fundy that are highly vulnerable to rising ocean levels. In my part of Nova Scotia the difference between low tide to high tide is only about one meter. Along parts of the Fundy the difference is over 15 meters. My question is, could a thirty centimeter, (one foot) average rise in ocean levels translate into high tides along the Fundy being up 4m or more??????? "

    I actually got kicked off Sciforums and one of the reasons was that my question related to the geography of the Bay of Fundy was considered to be politically incorrect and dangerous by at least one of the administrators of that forum. [They were even more offended though by how I approached the Covid 19 pandemic and they gave me a history lesson on "Typhoid Mary."]

    "Physics question related to the geography of the Bay of Fundy?"

    "If average ocean levels were to rise by ten centimeters.... .would
    the multiplier effect of the geography of the Bay of Fundy continue?

    The fact that the Bay of Fundy funnels tidal waters plus......
    it is over 170 miles long, (274 kms), it produces high tide level that are tenX to fifteenX over the difference in tidal waters where I live.

    So... could high tide levels near TRuro, N. S. to Moncton, N. B. be up by a meter or more if average ocean levels were to rise by ten centimeters?" [Dennis Tate, March 7, 2021]

    This question helps to explain why I really like the alternative theory on stabilization of the climate put forward by a New Mexico biologist and coach.

    Carl Cantrell :
    Mayor Patrick Brown..... It is true that you handled the Covid 19 pandemic in a highly imperfect and politically correct manner........
    ... it was the events surrounding the David Menzies news story at that hockey rink that led to that somewhat negative statement that I got about you a month or so ago but.......
    there is a positive in all of this because your errors over the past five years are fairly small, in my opinion, in comparison to the errors by Robert Strang M. D., for one example, back in Nova Scotia.

    For the record I personally was signed up to take the Covid 19 vaccine on May 26, 2021 but I had a lot of free time on my hands in the mornings due to my shift as a janitor at a school being from two thirty p.m. in the afternoon until ten thirty p.m. I used my extra time to do more research on the vaccine. I listened to youtube videos by Robert Malone M. D. and Dr. Simone Gold and others and I decided that I absolutely WOULD NOT take the Covid 19 vaccine in any of the forms that they existed in at that time.

    I was forced to retire one day before I would have been put on Unpaid Administrative Leave anyway so I soon drove to Mississauga where I was sure that I could find a job where I would not have to take the Covid 19 vaccine.

    Mayor Patrick Brown.... it is my belief that the way that the Covid 19 pandemic was handled was arguably one of the biggest schemes in history to legislate taxpayer funds being diverted over to BigPharma companies that has ever occurred!

    It is my belief that the revenue stream worldwide was not merely billions of dollars.... but actually went into the TRILLIONS!!!!

    Now to make you aware of a fascinating prediction that I believe could be addressed by two or three or four or more FILM PRODUCTION COOPERATIVES OF KIBBUTZES in Brampton and Mississauga and Hamilton and in other parts of Ontario as word of this proposed experiment gets around. My belief is that the corruption that we have seen in BigPharma and BigMedia and BigGovernment are actually potentially GOOD NEWS FOR ALL CANADIANS AND ALL AMERICANS AND FOR ALL EIGHT BILLION PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH. I BELIEVE THAT CANADIANS ARE NOW READY TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT WAYS TO ADDRESS CANCER HAVE BEEN HIDDEN AND SUPPRESSED MUCH AS THE TRUTH ON WAYS TO TREAT COVID 19 WERE ALSO VERY LIKELY HIDDEN as more and more money was thrown around to bureaucrats who were in positions of power to keep the taxpayer money flowing to BigPharma companies!

    Mayor Patrick Brown.... I have a challenge for you..... you print up an alternative Currency Note like Calgary Dollars..... and make a funny face on the note....... so that the people over at BigBanking will tend to take that currency note less seriously!!!!

    I will try my best to write a short message on as many notes as you want me to write on..... so that some people may wish to laminate them and turn them into Collectors Items..... which takes them out of circulation and would force you to PRINT MORE OF THEM!!!!! I saw a joke Currency Note in circulation here in Mississauga about a month ago that was supposedly a one hundred dollar USA note but it has Chinese characters on it.... which made it an obvious joke currency..... but it was extremely well done I must admit!!!!!

    "Hazel to Mayor Patrick Brown: "Don't think small... market Brampton to the world!" "

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...on-to-the-world.612214/page-3#post-1074443316
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter.
    It doesn't matter how big it is, or where or when or why or anything else. The world should have ONE a answer to genocide.

    NEVER AGAIN
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But sadly.......

    https://www.nfb.ca/film/invisible_nation/


    Even what has been happening to the Armenians over these past few months and years shows how we humans have not learned the obvious lessons from history very well.





     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True!!!!!!!!!!

    And... the answer to NEVER AGAIN may lie in Theoretically Infinite Financing based at least partly on the theory that all of us somehow or another "Reincarnate" again and again and again and again and...... sooner or later..... we fall into diverse lusts and temptations.... and we end up playing out the role of a VILLAIN!!!!!!!

    TEN years ago I was told that I had been the most awful...... most Horrible HENRY that pretty much ever lived!!!!!!!?????

    But..... ON THE PLUS SIDE.....

    a possible reincarnation of that Horrible Henry could be linked to a plan to put Theoretically Infinite Financing into circulation through organizations that are sincerely attempting to play the role of HOSPITAL SHIPS????!!!!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...on-to-the-world.612214/page-3#post-1074465272

    Hazel to Mayor Patrick Brown: "Don't think small... market Brampton to the world!"


    Mayor Patrick Brown.... about a decade ago somebody who probably identifies as a witch told me that I had been The Most Awful Henry in a past life....... yes....... that Henry....... the really, really, really, really horrible one...... so...... assuming the validity or partial validity or her prophecy or prostephy to me........ pretty much all the death and mayhem of these past five centuries could in theory.... be blamed on me!!!!!!!??????

    And yes..... I may well be the dumbest Canadian who ever lived ... but it really hit me hard when she told me that she had been Ms. Anne Boleyn?????????!!!!!!!!!

    Which.... could lead to my being in Theoretically Infinite Debt... which could in theory be really good news for everybody in Brampton!!!!!??????


    At least Prime Minister Pierre E. Trudeau is something of a consolation for me... because wow.... but he sure did make a colossal error back in 1974........ not as bad as the types of errors made by That Henry but...... definitely a horrible error????!!!!!


    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html



    Aleksander Ulyanov...... I NOW CHALLENGE YOU SIR TO A DUEL OF EVIL HUMOUR.... [OR eVile HUMOR IF YOU PREFER]..... and for the record I think it is obvious that you already have me outclassed by at fifty if not a hundred IQ points.... BUT.... I seem to be getting messages either from angels and / or devils..... and / or familiar spirits.... and / or the Ruach ha Kodesh / the Holy Spirit / YHWH the Mother.... or somebody..... because some of these videos in my head are so funny and potentially funny that there is no way that I thought this all up myself?????!!!!!

    IN THEORY THE CITY OF BRAMPTON, ONTARIO, CANADA CAN BECOME THE DISTRIBUTION CENTRE FOR AN UNCONDITIONAL BASIC MINIMUM INCOME TO ALL THIRTY EIGHT MILLION CANADIANS....... [HASHEM / THE G-D OF ABRAHAM, YHWH WILLING]?????????!!!!!

    Aleksander Ulyanov... would you Sir be willing to match with sith The Russel Peters on a totally voluntary basis?????? I would.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    Russell Peters | Notorious Full Special


    I saw a movie years ago that got me thinking in a manner that no ethical and "good Messianic Jew or even MessyAntik Jew" should be thinking of!!!!!!!



    Water *Official Trailer* - With English Subs (HD)
     
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