Texas Man Charged in Rape of 11-Year-Old Girl in Bemidji

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So illegal migrants have made it all the way up to Northern Minnesota.

    Maybe they kidnapped her on the way into the U.S. from the southern border, while they were migrating north into the country.
     
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    From the linked article:
    "According to the criminal complaint in the case, Luna, along with four other men, sexually assaulted her with their hands and genitals.
    A physical examination at the Family Advocacy Center of Northern Minnesota showed the victim suffered numerous injuries from a sexual assault."
     
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    so it's so hard to cross the border, people have to pay bad people to take them here?
     
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    You also have to remember that the U.S. is not exactly getting Mexico's "best and brightest".

    It's no surprise that a very disproportionate number of the ones who are illegally sneaking in are criminals and various other assorted riff-raff.
    Mexico does have some doctors, and other honorable people, but they're not the ones illegally sneaking in over the border.

    A disproportionate number of these illegal immigrants are younger single male migrants, and when you have so many of them, and an imbalance of females, what does anyone think is going to happen under those circumstances?
     
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    WTF are you talking about "in the shitholes these people come from"-- Texas? This was done by a "Texas man." Not by an illegal immigrant. They were the victims.
     
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    Show me his driver's license. We wouldn't call him a "man" in Texas. It's likely that the news outlet called him a Texas man is because that's where he last came from. They were being lazy and most likely on purpose to support the narrative that Texans are pedophiles and illegals are innocent victims.
     
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    My sole intent here is to ask you to tell me more about that. Where, and can you provide some proof that in those places 'women of ALL ages are fair game' to rape.

    I suspect your allegation is dramatic hyperbole, but maybe not. Let's see.
     
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    Hi Texan...nice to see you are still around.
     
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    Since the story did say that the victim alleged there were other girls imprisoned in the house; and that upon executing a search warrant, individuals were found at the residence; and that "eleven of them were transported by U.S.. Border Patrol to be processed as illegal immigrants;" it seems reasonable to assume that, had this man from Texas been here, illegally, that would also have been mentioned.

    I also, btw, thought it a little odd at first, that there seemed to be an emphasis on his being from Texas. But, recalling stories from my own newspaper-- I think this is common practice, when crimes are committed in a state, by someone who is not an established resident, of that state. In this case, there is a further reason to note the link to Texas, because it seems a reasonable speculation that these illegal immigrant victims had crossed our southern border w/ Mexico, into Texas, and were brought to Minnesota either with the Texas man, or at least that their transport had been arranged by this Texas resident.
     
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    Yes, this is one of those stories that makes one shake his head at the behavior of some in our human race. To me, what had particularly stood out, had been the aunt's actions of delivering her nice to these men, and even forcing her to drink alcohol, in preparation for them-- what a monstrous woman! But I guess it is good to be reminded that there truly are all kinds of people, in this world.

    What I am most curious of, though, the article didn't explain: how this victim managed to escape (or be allowed to leave) so to be able to report this.
     
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    Right wing members must hate that you always remind them, at the most inconvenient times, of things which they support.
     
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    Sex predators were hanging out together. Do you know why birth control/plan B are standard issue for young girls crossing into the US?
     
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    If any of them gave legal status you would have posted it.

    How about the girls aunt?
    What do you conjure up as her legal status?
     
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    What makes you sure they're illegal?
     
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    But but but but, he's not white.
    Therefore illegal by color.
     
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    If they were all predators why weren’t they charged also? We don’t just deport sec criminals. We charge them. Lots of illegals in our prisons.
     
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    Great question and I can't wait to answer. Can you answer my question first? Do you know why birth control/plan B are standard issue for young girls crossing into the US?
     
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    I imagine predators like to prey on vulnerable women and girls. Your turn.
     
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    You are on the right track. It is common for young girls to be sexually assaulted on their journey to the US. That means that support for these border policies equals lack of concern for humanity. Do we think that sex predators change who they are once they come here?

    Perhaps they have plausible deniability. I don't see how they can live there and not notice what is going on.
     
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    They do. You are confusing anecdotes with statistics. Imagine if anytime a native-born person did something horrific, we pretended that was evidence of... anything about native born people in general. That would be stupid, huh?

    DOES UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRATION INCREASE VIOLENT CRIME?* - LIGHT - 2018 - Criminology - Wiley Online Library

    "we combine newly developed estimates of the unauthorized population with multiple data sources to capture the criminal, socioeconomic, and demographic context of all 50 states and Washington, DC, from 1990 to 2014 to provide the first longitudinal analysis of the macro-level relationship between undocumented immigration and violence. The results from fixed-effects regression models reveal that undocumented immigration does not increase violence. Rather, the relationship between undocumented immigration and violent crime is generally negative, although not significant in all specifications. "
     
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    The problem I have with this is when crimes are committed and no one is caught, who gets blamed in the statistics, citizens or non citizens?

    It's been estimated that 40% of the women getting smuggled into this country are raped at least once on their way here. Last week a congresswoman told a story about an illegal alien woman who said she was not only raped every day, but numerous times a day.
     
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    The article says he was FROM Texas. Your assumption that just the fact that he was Hispanic means he was likely here illegally shows a massive failure in the capacity for critical thought.
     
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    I've seen data like you refer to, and no assumption is made if the data is not available, normally. But the study I cited doesn't rely on that. It's more about if you control for other factors, does the presence of more illegal immigrants serve to increase or decrease violent crime. The findings are that it sometimes decreased it, and sometimes made no difference, depending upon what was being measured.

    In terms of 40% of women who are smuggled getting raped, I would first wonder how they know that given being smuggled is secret by nature. Then I would ask what proportion of illegal immigrants got here by smuggling. I'm skeptical, basically. And the criminals, are they American citizens or Mexican citizens? Seems like smuggling would benefit more from using American citizens, and so it would be American citizens committing the crimes... depending upon the methods of smuggling we're talking about.

    They keep referring to him as "of Mission, Texas," so the implication is that he is. He could be a hispanic texan who hangs out with illegal hispanics. Not shocking if true.
     
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  25. Steve N

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    Here's a bunch of links to what I was referring to.

    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=migrant+women+raped#ip=1
     

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