NATO-trained Ukrainian conscripts surrendering en masse

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    https://www.vtforeignpolicy.com/2023/10/nato-trained-ukrainian-conscripts-surrendering-en-masse/

    The lives of the Ukrainian military began to measured on the clock. They prefer captivity to death.

    About 10,000 Ukrainian military have surrendered using the 149.200 Volga radio wave, which has been operating since mid-summer.
    “Now more than 10,000 Ukrainian military have already chosen life and used the 149.200 Volga frequency to surrender as prisoners. The captives have been fed, they are being provided with all necessary medical assistance,” the agency interlocutor said, noting that this radio frequency operates in all directions of the special military operation. https://globalusanews.com/2023/09/29/about-10000-ukrainian-servicemen-surrendered-since-mid-summer/

    Ukrainians are surrendering en masse, but it is profitable for the Russians to slowly mop up the fascists in Ukraine.
    I think it is profitable for the Russians to wait for the economic collapse and collapse of the West and mass unrest in the EU and USA.
    This will allow them to not only liberate Africa from western colonialism, but also liberate Latin America from western colonialism.
     
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    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since 1971 the US dollar's role as the primary global reserve currency has been one of America's most potent weapons; the current killing in Ukraine is only its latest (but not last) manifestation:

    https://mronline.org/2023/07/13/the-war-in-ukraine-is-the-war-for-the-dollar/

    "L’Éclaireur: At a time when the question of the end of the supremacy of the dollar is being raised, you say that the war in Ukraine is not only the war of the American dollar, but that it is not the first…

    "Oleg Nesterenko: I see that you are referring to my analysis of the dollar wars, published some time ago… In fact, this is not the first, or even the second, but the third dollar war.

    "The first was the war against Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.

    "The second was the war against Gaddafi’s Libya.

    "And the third, against Moscow on the territory of Ukraine, waged on the territory of a third country, simply because you can’t wage war against the Russians in their own country.

    "And it is only the hybrid and proxy war that can be waged against Russia."
     
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    At least the reporter was honest and listed his source as infobrics.org - a Russian agitprop site.
     
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    How long ago was it that you said Russia had already won and all that was left was mopping up? Remind me again.
     
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    If you ask him, he'll tell you it happened.

    Reminds me of Christians who claim that the rapture already happened. Some people just can't handle being wrong.
     
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    Ahaha... Everything you don't like, for you it's Russian propaganda.:roflol::roflol::roflol:
    Do you also consider American veterans to be KGB agents?
     
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    1. The fact that Russia has won for a long time was said by an American military expert in an American publication. I posted information about this interview.
    2. Russia won back in March 2022. This was known to anyone who has at least one gyrus in the brain.
    3. Why don't you understand this, is the question.
     
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    Ahahaha... Ostriches, for example, hide their heads in the sand.:roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    If the Russians have already increased their territory by five new regions, can you call it something other than victory?:roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Nope. I don't call Fox News Russian propaganda, for instance.

    But this site you've linked to is loaded with Russian propaganda.
     
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    Exhibit A: Map of Russian occupied Ukrainian territory early 2022

    https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/INTERACTIVE-Russia-Ukraine-map-Who-controls-what-in-Ukraine-DAY-14.png?resize=770,513&quality=80

    Exhibit B: Map of of Russian occupied Ukrainian territory now

    https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/36a7f6a6f5a9448496de641cf64bd375

    Funnily enough Russia's 'victory' seems to be operating in reverse. The idea in a war of aggression is to capture territory DILL not lose it!. Details, details, details. It the 'little' things like how much territory Russia controls now vs how much territory they used to control that still seem to elude you DILL.
     
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    Why did you decide that? Are American veterans telling lies? Or as usual - you don't like the article, so you declare the article Russian propaganda.
    By the way, why is the propaganda Russian? Why not Chinese? Or Why not Nicaraguan? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    And BTW I counted 12 prisoners DILL (assuming they were prisoners to begin with). Just so you know I'm not actually sure that counts as 'en masse'.

    But, who am I to judge? Have it your way. If that's what Russia wants to claim is a 'mass' surrender I'm not going to burst it's bubble.
     
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    Ahaha.... Wait a bit. Soon you will see Alaska in the zone of Russian influence.
    By the way, if the United States occupied part of Mexico, but then ceded a few acres of desert, is this considered a victory for the United States or is it a victory for Mexico? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    American veterans don't write for the Kremlin or the Internet Research Agency, and that's clearly where the sewage on that site comes from.
     
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    Why? Can you prove that they are lying about the number of prisoners? Or will everything be as usual - your abstract reasoning and avoiding the topic?
     
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    Just because you move to Alaska DILL doesn't mean it's now in Russia's 'zone of influence'. It just means that the average IQ of where you live now has gone up and the average IQ of Alaska has gone down.
     
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    Err can you prove they aren't? Has Russia published a list of names and serial numbers? If that many soldiers have actually been captured those details should be readily available DILL. Are they? It's basic Geneva Convention stuff DILL. Repeat after me 'It the details, the details'.
     
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    Don't judge by yourself. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Of course there is such a list. And if you want to read, you can easily find it. For example here https://www.woina.ru/spisok-plennih-ukraincew.html
     
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    For your general development.

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    Russian commanders are using the tactic of "elastic defense" - first ceding positions and then striking back. They do this to prevent Ukraine from holding populated areas and other positions as springboards for future attacks. "Elastic defense is not a new strategy. The Soviet Union used it during the 1943 defeat of Germany in the Battle of Kursk. Historically, it has been used very successfully, but success requires good leadership and well-trained forces, as well as decisive counterstrikes"

    The Russians are grinding up the Ukrainian rabble without taking casualties. I like that tactic.
     
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    Let's not forget, that this clown declared Russian victory already 1.5 years ago and last year about this time he spread around stories, how Europe will freeze to death in winter without Russian gas. :D
     
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    Based on the the amount of ground they've 'conceded' in 18 months? They're more f'ing 'elastic' than a rubber band! But I'm glad you 'like' it. Small things ....
     
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    Also I remembered, how this clown at the time of Ukraine Kharkiv offensive, when the Russian army was running and leaving behind armor and weapons, told , that this all is a plan to get the Ukrainian Army in a trap and destroy it. :D
     
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