Israel comes under heavy rocket fire from Gaza, suspected terror infiltration

Like I said before, this would be like saying, "We stand with Poland!", in 1939, with no intention of opening up other fronts to attack the Nazis ourselves. It would have been nothing but a virtue signal that got more people killed for the same end result.

 

I wonder if the average American can connect the dots between Hamas attacking Israel because the Zionist pigs have stolen the Palestinians' land. The Americans are acting as if they have never gone to school.

 

Well, Britain declared war on Nazi Germany because of Poland but what did the UK do? Dash off to Poland to help defend them? Oh, no! They hunkered down along the French frontier (far, far, far away from Poland) and sang Christmas Carol duets together with the Germans. Then waited, and waited, and waited for the Germans to attack. Some "declaration of war", huh?

 

I don't care. The Jews have been persecuted by Islamists forever. The UN carved out a part of the Middle East for them. So we have gone full circle: Islamists believe Israel should have no country and Islamists don't need Israel as an excuse to kill Jews.

 

1,300 Jews dead in the original attack, 2,200 Palestinians dead in the reprisal attacks so far.
- BBC Verify has confirmed women and young children were killed when a strike hit their vehicles as they headed away from northern Gaza.

Safe corridors not being respected as fleeing civilians being bombed.

I think there has been more than enough bloodshed on both sides. This madness needs to end.

Strike on civilian convoy fleeing Gaza: What the video shows
Warning: This post contains details some people may find distressing.

Many people have died - at least 12 - in a strike on a civilian convoy fleeing northern Gaza along one of the evacuation routes.

As we reported earlier, we have verified footage from the aftermath of the strike - but here's more detail about what it shows.

The video is a vision of near unimaginable carnage, and sadly, just the latest of many brought about by this conflict.

It shows a group of men running towards a lorry. Some climb aboard while others film the scene.

They yell prayers and lamentations for the victims into the smoke-filled air, their voices occasionally drowned out by the howl of car alarms.

As the camera approaches the lorry, the full horror of the strike begins to emerge.

Several bodies, contorted by the force of the blast, are strewn across the flatbed. Pools of blood litter the surroundings.

As the view switches to the other side of the lorry, the body of a small child - clearly no more than four years old - shifts into view.

Other footage filmed before the strike showed that lorries similar to these were crammed with as many as 30 people journeying south, in search of safety. Some will have been thrown from the vehicle, others may have survived and left the area.

As the camera moves past the lorries we see two more battered and burning vehicles - likely with victims still inside.


https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67108364

 

I don't care if you care or not. So there.

Boo-hoo! So have the Muslims and the Christians. Oh, my mistake! I should have said, "I don't care".

Because of misplaced white man's guilt. The Holocaust was a white man Christian's show. If the whites were so honourabe they would have integrated the Jews within Europe-America and let the Palestinians decide if and how many Jews they would take in themselves. But by forcing the Jews on Palestine, alternative Uganda, a cocktail of Molotov proportions was guaranteed. What the UN did was fluff the Jews off on the Arabs who had nothing to do with the Holocaust. THIS is the consequence.
Funny how the UN created this war and when they had a chance to prevent one they not only allowed it to happen but never even jailed the Bush-Cheny-Rumsford trio. The UN can get stuffed.

 

It might have been fully reported but Julian Assange's cell only has room for one.

 

So what?

 

People who don't share your opinion are not dangerous to you. At least, not necessarily.

It's not realistic to think that Putler is going to use a nuke on Kyiv. Doing so would not win him the war anyway.

 

I am sure this warning by Iran's foreign minister will not be heeded. I also realize there are good reasons to suspect Hezbollah will want to avoid entering into the war, especially since Lebanon is a fractured society and there are many in that country who most certainly prefer not to see their country dragged into war. But the idea that Israel will be allowed to commit genocide and get away with it doesn't seem tenable either.


https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...ter-warns-israel-beirut-suffer-huge-103977573

 

All debates here should be about destroying Hamas ISIS and bring back the kidnapped.

 

Yeah, because Ukraine winning is not realistic. But if the Biden team were successful in their goals of crippling the Russian military and economy, the odds go way up. I'm not saying the people themselves are dangerous to me, but what they advocate for is.

 

Donald Trump has murdered more Americans, than Hamas has murdered Israelis in total.
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Neither the US Government, nor the mainstream media seem too interested in this atrocity against the American people. It's a shame that us media viewers have to be so skeptical, and careful not to be conned by big media tricks. A lot of media propaganda gets pass me. I don't think anyone can catch it all which is why I watch the Majority Report, The Humanist, Left Reckoning, The Zero Hour and The Young Turks to name a few. Cenk, Ana Kasparian and their TYT media team are really good at exposing domestic political shenanigans and I benefit from their insights. My criticism is meant to constructively encourage, not discourage.

Because of these media hazards, I watch those programs mentioned and videos lectures like Niklas Luhmann: Function, Code, and Ontology of the Media by Hans-Georg Moeller who is a professor at the Philosophy and Religious Studies Department at the University of Macau. I was suspicious of Moeller at first, but after watching his lectures I concluded he is just a critical theory philosopher and is very good at dissecting the media so we shouldn't kill him (metaphorically speaking). Moeller has a mean and effective Socratic method that first dismembers his opponents in order to force his them to restructure their viewpoints with or without the conceptual distinctions he presents.

Moeller points out that in modern society today we, unlike those in the past, live with two dynamic realities and quotes the German media theorist Niklas Luhmann: "Luhmann writes: 'We can also speak of the reality of the mass media in a second sense, namely in the sense of that which appears as reality for them, or, through them for others.' When you watch the news, the first reality is the journalist you see talking about events. The second reality are the events that journalist talks about... the second reality is Luhmann's media theory that I'm presenting to you. Since early childhood, we learned to distinguish these two realities-- it's simple. But, although, as Luhmann says, 'this may seem completely trivial,' it is philosophically quite significant let's look at these philosophical implications for a moment (16:27 minutes)."

Hans-Georg Moeller on Luhmann's Modern Media Theory
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All debates here should be about destroying Zionism and returning Palestine back to the Palestinians.

 

All debates here should be about stopping the killing of civilians, on both sides. Both sides have thousands of innocents to bury. All they are doing now is killing more innocents and creating another generation of extremists, ensuring this will happen again. An endless cycle of death and suffering with nothing to ever show for it.

 

Ukraine winning is very realistic. They're already much better equipped than the Taliban and their opponent is far weaker.

 

This is not a binary conflict. Many of you are doing the same thing you are doing with Ukraine. Some of you who haven't been doing it with Ukraine are doing it with Israel/Palestine.

The position the Ukranians find themselves in is not solely, or even primarily, the result of Ukranian and Russian actions. There are, and have been, other actors, like NATO, that have made terrible decisions, over decades, that have contributed to the Ukrainian position.

The position the Palestinians find themselves in is not solely, or even primarily, the result of Palestinian or Israeli actions. There are, and have been, other actors, like Iran, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, that have made terrible decisions, over decades, that have contributed to the Palestinian position.

 

Russia's security concerns are more fundamental and evident here, it's recognized by a majority of Russians, and thus the spirit to resist NATO is at least as powerful as the spirit of the Ukrainians to resist Russia's incursion.

 

It is not possible to remove Hamas without civilian casualties.

What Israel can do is end the blockade.

 

What would be like just a "virtue signal?" We have been giving very tangible aid to Ukraine. Or are you talking about Israel & Hamas? Your post is incredibly vague & undefined, so your meaning is ambiguous.

 

Civilians in Gaza are now afraid to leave their homes because the "safe routes" have been bombed by Israelis. What a disaster. The airstrikes so far have killed 2,215 including 724 children, and has wounded 8,714 more. And now the IDF is saying the are preparing to expand operations by air, land and sea.



https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/israel-hamas-war-gaza-strip/

 

Ukraine is about to get ****ed. They'll be lucky to get any support now. US weapons and munitions that were stockpiled in Israel were sent to Ukraine and used up already. Now Ukraine won't be getting anymore as the US tries to replenish to Israel what was already given to Ukraine. Ukraine better start suing for peace. They should have done that a long time ago, but western aid prolonged the conflict, causing hundreds of thousands of lives for a war that was never going to be won anyway. The best they could have ever hoped for was ceding some territory, realistically.

 

Ceding territory is a satisfactory ending to conflict in Ukraine? Is that what Gaca should now do? Cede territory to Israel?

 

Only sadist, blood thirsty pigs defend or excuse Hamas' actions. You cannot murder/kidnap women & children and then claim to support justice, humanity & freedom.

 

I didn't say it was satisfactory. It is inevitable. With the worlds focus shifting to the middle east, the Ukraine is going to get a lot less aid. That is just the reality of the situation.

Israel and Saudi Arabia were about to sign treaties normalizing relations between the two. Now Saudi Arabia has shitcanned that deal, and is getting cozy with Iran in protest of Israeli actions against Palestinian civilians. There is a very good chance this is going to explode into a larger regional conflict, which is why we have a 2nd carrier battle group on the way.
Ukraine is going to have to do what it can with much less support.