Israel comes under heavy rocket fire from Gaza, suspected terror infiltration

Spoken like a true leftist.

Japan is our friend. Canada is our friend. England is our friend.

Do you need more?

 

So Israel is upset people in Gaza are getting medicine. That's pretty evil.

 

I disagree.

 

Are you aware that Iran support and fund Hamas ISIS ? the murderers of babies.
Are you aware that your country is happy and joyful because 1300 Israelis were butchered, burned, slaughtered, raped, beheaded ?

Since you did not condemn the Ayatollahs regime in Iran after they killed and imprisoned hundreds of citizens in the Hijab protest, we will probably
not see from you a condemnation of the barbarism and massacre of Israeli citizens.

 

The flowers in Poland are blue, the houses need paint.

 

So, you support ethnic cleansing. How disappointing.

Regardless, you seem to have no problems viewing the killing Hamas has done under a black and white viewpoint.

 

If you mean that report of the beheading of a boy then that is a fake.

 

I think it's evil to kill. Killing is the blackest black.

It gets less black and white when it comes to dealing with killers, however. Should killers be killed in order to stop them from killing? Perhaps. Is it permissible to kill others in the pursuit of killing the killers? I don't think so. I think Israel is wrong to bomb Gaza in order to fight Hamas. But at the same time, I think it is wrong for Hamas to hide amongst innocent people and launch deadly attacks on Israelis from there.

In the end, it's all shades of dark, dark gray.

 

I can't speak for "Iranians" as they represent a large group of people with different viewpoints. But my own view on the questions you raise is as follows:

1- I believe that the US has been pursuing policies scripted for it by a party (the pro Likudnik faction within the US) and which no US administration can reverse, that is intended to cause an implosion within Iran or bring about a war when Iran has been weakened or cowed sufficiently to make sure Iran could not retaliate in the manner it could in theory. To put things perspective on the latter, unless Iran is cowed sufficiently, in case of a war where Iran's leaders feel there backs are to the wall, they could theoretically unleash quite a punch against Israel that will likely lead that country pretty much destroyed but even more significantly, they could wreck the world economy in ways that many don't realize. Iran could close traffic not just through the Strait of Hormuz and Persian Gulf, but even all the way in Suez Canal and any other place where its missles and drones can hit. So the idea of war against Iran, as opposed to a hit and run operation in the hopes that Iran will not retaliate in fear of the consequences (Iran itself being destroyed), isn't really all that likely unless events simply spiral out of control and the law unintended consequences apply.

2- Hezbollah knows that it has built itself a deterrent against military action and that the war waged against it involves instead weakening its political, financial, and diplomatic position. Hezbollah understands that eventually the Israelis will come after them directly but Israel would not want a war with Hezbollah anytime soon. Not if it can avoid it.

3- If Biden is in Jerusalem at a time when Jerusalem is being attacked, especially being attacked by not simple rockets but precision guided ballistic missiles, the US will almost certainly take military action against Iran.

 

Death is not the worst thing you can do to someone. As an actual American, I realize this.

Live free or die. Death is not the greatest of evils.

I don't know if what Hamas did is going to have the result they are looking for. I think Hamas acted as viscously as they did in order to convince Israel to invade Gaza. I think Hamas is going to try to force Israel into a genocide instead of the ethnic cleansing which is easy for everyone to ignore. I think Israel is going to ethnically cleanse the Gaza strip one way or the other. Gaza will look like Mariupol. That's why Israel made the war declaration. The Israeli army is freed from government oversight when that happens. Old Net can wash his hands of the mess.

To be honest, I wonder if my fellow citizens are too callous to even care if Israel just outright murders 2,000,000 people in Gaza. They'll come up with some excuse for Israel. Call it a shade of dark gray.

 

This is what happens when people use Wikipedia. It's not reliable.

Algeria:

https://www.worldhistory.biz/sundries/46847-constantine-pogrom-1934.html

Morocco:

https://en.yabiladi.com/articles/details/108460/moroccan-israelis-want-oujda-jerada.html

There.

 

There are other forms of cruelty, of course, but does anything really compare to ending someone's existence? I just don't know. Either way, there is a lot of evil afoot in Israel as these clans go at each other.

I wish people would learn the lesson of the Star Trek episode "Day of the Dove":

In Engineering, Kang distrusts Kirk's explanation of the entity despite Mara's assurance, and believing she was assaulted, challenges Kirk to a sword duel. As they clash, and with the entity hovering and pulsating a bright red nearby, Kirk implores Kang to stop, telling him that they may become its puppets for a thousand lifetimes if they continue to fight. Kang acknowledges Kirk's warning and the fact that their fighting is pointless. Kirk and Kang order their respective crews to lay down their arms. To starve the entity, Kirk and Kang encourage their crews to act jovially and to laugh with one another loudly. The entity fades and leaves the ship.​

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dove

While there is no such entity in a literal sense, it represents the demon of hatred and violence that lives inside us all.

 

I wasn’t the one using Wikipedia as a source.

Are you allergic to reading? Read the last paragraph.

 

That’s the problem. Israel won’t let the peace exist - not while they are still ethnically cleansing Palestine. If Israel did what I suggested. The day of the dove would eventually happen.

 

I know.

I did. I posted it.

Try google. It will tell you that the fate of Jews depended on the whims of the rulers. Moroccan Jews couldn't be sure that under the next king, or the same king later in life, they'll be afforded the same rights and protections.

 

More than 40 Israeli Children and babies were slaughtered by Hamas ISIS.
Few of them were beheaded.
The internet is full of fake news by pro Islamo Jihados, but the sad and horrifying truth is that many Israelis were murdered and beheaded.

 

Dark grey is even worse than black. It fills one with doubts and uncertainty, undermining resolve and self-reliance every step of the way. At the end of the day, one has to make up one's mind whether one can live with the dark within the grey or not.

Israelis have just discovered how dangerous grey really is.


Such tragedies should never happen, and it's our right and duty to make sure Israeli mothers will never have to go through such a torture again.

But then, we will be told "what about Palestinian mothers?". Well, it's Hamas' right and duty to defend them, not ours. They started the war knowing how much suffering it brings to their people. It's out of our hands.

I know it's little consolation, but international law permits killing civilians, in certain circumstances.

https://casebook.icrc.org/case-study/israelgaza-operation-cast-lead

War is ugly. Always was, always will be. Why is everyone and their neighbor's fleas asking Israel to wage war that is not ugly? There's no such thing, is there?

 

There is no hard evidence of babies with heads cut off. Even the Israeli govt walked back the claim.

Not that it really matters, a dead baby is a dead baby.

 

Oh Hamas has lots of followers-anti semites, far left haters of America and any country that is a major ally of the USA. Plus the virtue signaling woke types love supporting terrorists. And of course Islamists who openly or secretly cheered the 9-11 terrorism

 

LOL and the Islamist terrorists are? too funny. Anti semites and Nazis aren't our friends either.

 

These two terms most closely describe Israel.

Hamas is a semitic group.

Once again you're subordinating the U.S. to Israel. Why do you think so little of the U.S.?

Virtue signaling is all on the side of those who support the tribal socialist government of Israel. Anyone here demand that you denounce Israel? Yet everyone demands that people denounce Hamas. Yep, you're the virtue signaler. How do you like being a woke leftist supporting socialism?

Well, thats a segway. Yes, Islam is a pretty bad religion. But the U.S. ended up invading Afghanistan and gettin it's ass whipped. Got its ass whipped in Iraq, Syria, Lybia, Nigeria, Beirut . . .

But Israel succeeds because they have no morals whatsoever. Well, they succeed because the U.S. plows endless sums of money in their direction and many people in the U.S. are more devoted to their agitprop than they are the Bible. Hamas is just learning from their master - they just didn't succeed in having endless sums of money pour in their direction.

Do you adore Israel because they lack any morality when it comes to getting what they want? Do you wish white people in the U.S. had the same tribalism the Jews in Israel have?

 

Cutting water/electricity is not automatically a war crime. For example, if you are a commander who has determined that there is no possibility of uprooting the enemy without extensive bombing, you can decide on a system of cutting/restoring power in different areas in order to force a civilian migration out of the area you intend to bomb. If this is motivating the commander's decisions on water/power, it is actually the opposite of a war crime.

 

White people are not an ethnicity or a nationality, as whiteness is nothing but a social-construct based on poor science.

 

so tell me what would motivate someone who appears to be a US Citizen to support Hamas. I support Israel for several reasons. I am not Jewish nor do I identify as Jewish. I concede I have many Jewish friends, several of whom have relatives in Israel-citizens, IDF members, reservists etc.

 

French politician. - "The Brussels terrorist apparently used American weapons of war to kill his hapless victims! This is the weapon sent to Ukraine, for Zelensky's regime. Many have warned! It is utter madness to send weapons to such a corrupt regime! We will be the first victims!"


And there's one more piece of news. Egypt has threatened the West to send a million refugees from Gaza to Europe. https://www.ft.com/content/feab5a29-a10a-4d6c-9035-ece2546c12a3

These refugees will remind the Europeans of their support for the Jewish occupiers.