Action - we need to write to Congress that we do not support the destruction of Gaza

This isn't just our opinion, but if we support the attack on Gaza we will have a whole bunch of countries in the Middle East telling us to leave Gaza alone.

 

Descendants of Abraham??? Who the **** cares???

 

I strongly oppose the destruction of Gaza unless it is used to harbor baby-killing, rapist, savage terrorists.

 

Some people care, but European jews have claimed to be the true descendants of Abraham
and therefore to be the sole heirs of the promised land in the Middle East.

 

Ummmm ..........

Ok then.

 

The European Ashkenazi Jews have been of great benefit to the countries they live in,
in Europe and America, but there seems to be a conflict of interest in the Middle East.

 

I support destroying Hamas. Civilization requires it. If Hamas wants to protect the innocents in Gaza then Hamas can promptly surrender to the IDF.

Man Who Agrees With The Media, Universities, Corporations, And Hollywood Thinks He’s Part Of The Resistance.



'The Babylon Bee had the honor of sitting down with a local brave #resistance fighter to learn more about the fearless counterculture fighting against hate and other bad stuff like that. According to Doy Keeblesmush, a leader of the local resistance movement in Seattle, the ideology consists of whatever the media, universities, corporations, and Hollywood tell them they should think.'

"Yeah, I'm pretty much a free thinker," said Keeblesmush when interviewed at a protest rally sponsored by Kinko's. "I would say my ideology is an eclectic mix of Vox, Marvel comics, Starbucks' Twitter feed, and whatever my Sociology 101 professor says. There's a lot of hate and misinformation out there, so it's important that I get my life's moral compass entirely from multi-billion dollar corporations and celebrities. The only exception is dead German philosophers like Marx. They're cool too."

'According to Keeblesmush, blindly following the prevailing winds of culture as dictated by trends and hype is the best way of making sure one is on the "right side of history."'

 

I've got it! Israel should give the Palestinians their own state or let them vote in Israel. Apartheid has never been a good solution.

 

I support a full out war on Hamas, not all the Palestinian citizens

Hamas is Israels Bin Laden...

 

I'm going to bow after starting the conversation because although I thought I had a valid
point from a religious view, I lack accurate detailed knowledge of what has been going on
in Palestine over the past 100 years.

 

So at what point does Hamas and all those who support them including many of the Palestinians stop trying to kill Jews and free every square inch “from the river to the sea” of Jews?

 

Well that's simple. The British took control of Palestine at the end of WW1 with the defeat of the Ottoman Empire. For approximately the next 30 years, the British did what the British did for centuries, control and colonize. Then after the end of WW2, the British had the 'jew solution'. They created the jewish state. In 1947, the British declared they were no longer controlling Palestine and the jews declared the state of israel, which was promptly recognized by the usual suspects of the West. This is your modern history of israel and why it's such a cluster**k to this day.

 

Try letting them live in their lands. If they don't treat Israel as neighbors then Israel has a clear position. As I said, apartheid is never a solution but it does give Hamas a legitimate raison d'etre.

 

I don’t support the idea of the destruction of Gaza, but I do support the idea of the destruction of Hamas.

 

So you base it on nothing but wishful thinking. “Let’s try it” is not a valid idea worthy of consideration.

There are many Palestinians who may very well be able to live in peace as part of Israel or as their own state: so far, the only thing that has happened even when Israel made huge concessions, gave them the entire Gaza Strip, and all they did with it was elect a terrorist group to come in and wage war against Jews with them as their human meat shields.

But at the end of the day the entire Palestinian population in Gaza is controlled by terrorists and you have zero strategy for separating or reforming the terrorists or their Palestinian sympathizers and accomplices who are on record as not simply wanting a bit more land or vote power but all the land with zero Jews on it.

All your baseless pie in the sky nonsense does is empower and protect terrorists and ensure that more atrocities by them on innocent Jews and anyone else caught in their line of fire are committed

 

There is no good option. If Israel doesn't invade Gaza to find the terrorists, they will strike again. If they do, it will be used by other terrorist groups to incite hate against Israel.

Best scenario I can think of: Israel goes in, gets all the terrorists they can, proclaims victory, and immediately sits at the table to SERIOUSLY negotiate a two-state solution based on true independence, respect and cooperation with non-terrorist groups.

Not an easy needle to thread but... what else can you realistically expect?

 

If the Arab countries trusted the Palestinians, they would have offered them a home land. They don’t because the Palestinians are big time hell raisers. They teach their children to hate the Jewish people from kindergarten on. When you have a population of haters like that, it’s impossible to change them. If any Arab state gave the Palestinians a home land, they would be looking to overthrow that government so that it could become another Iran.

All of the Arab states are on a tightrope. Their more educated, enlightened leaders know the benefits of peace with Israel. The trouble is their citizens are stuck in the old ways. To keep the rabble happy, they let extremists to continue to function. The old ways might have been on the road to extinction had it not been for the professional haters who rule Iran.

 

So far as the answer to the poll question, how do you cut out a large cancer and leave the body intact? It becomes infinitely harder when the other cells in the body are sympathetic to the cancer.

 

Kudos to you, I very rarely agree with you on anything but that is the most realistic and down to earth strategy I’ve read even though I still have concerns on the efficacy of the aftermath as you describe it.

Middle East politics is not something I have a good grasp on…I know it’s hugely complex and completely different from western ways of thinking, making predictions for how things will work out extremely difficult.

I can however reasonably base concerns on what I’ve seen happen before: the Palestinians were given control of Gaza and let Hamas take over.

that cannot happen again. Nor can they be allowed to be controlled by any other group of whack jobs.

Imo other Arab countries that are not hostile to Israel need to have skin in the game, and control of Gaza from a governmental standpoint I can see potentially being accomplished by a coalition of Arabic countries. This to me would have much greater odds of a successful and long lasting peace

Whether that’s realistic or not i have no idea. No one seems to want anything to do with Palestinians, merely using them as a giant soapbox.

 

I think no one should forget who started this war in a surprise and unprovoked attack. No attack, no starting this war and no destriuction at all in Gaza. No starting the war as Hamas did, Gaza lives in peace. The aggressor should be punished to the hilt.

 

"Gave the entire Gaza strip"? Gaza is tiny.
Gaza has twenty times the population density of Israel

 

Very true! Just like Israelis were given the opportunity to elect a leader who is not a racist extremist thug, like Netanyahu is. That cannot happen again either.

If either of those repeats, we're back to square one.

 

Obviously a religious claim. FWIW, Israel needs to defeat Hamas and if that means Palestinians suffer, that's on Hamas (and quite frankly on those Palestinians who did elect Hamas as their government).

 

Dang, if only they had tried that. Oh wait...

 

It's a pro Hamas baiting thread.