Trump threatens to leave NATO

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  1. Reality

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    Same idea mainly. We project power so much because 1) our GDP is just bigger than everyone elses so a similar percentage pays dividends others cannot hope to match (and it shouldn't be something I have to explain but just in case: BEING THE GUY WITH THE MOST FIREPOWER IS BETTER THAN NOT BEING THAT GUY. THE MORE PRONOUNCED THE ADVANTAGE THE LESS LIKELY YOU ARE TO BE CHALLENGED) and 2) we prefer wars to occur "over there" not "over here".
     
  2. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dont think it's that absolute. We spend more to ensure our interests are protected and our enemies are at bay.

    Assuming that responsibility allows our allies to reduce their contribution and that taxes us more.

    Do you really believe US allies don't base their military funding on the US's ability to protect them as an ally?

    It goes both ways.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I understand just fine.

    Liberal Europeans love to pat themselves on the back for their social programs all while hiding behind the US defense systems that allows them to defer funding.

    Answer this. If NATO is disbanded... who feels the hurt more. The US or other members?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup.

    And the entirety of the west would be at higher risk from adversaries.
     
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  5. truth and justice

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    LOL You clearly don't know what The NATO is about!
     
  6. AKS

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    Please explain how nato is enriching gangsters and terrorists.
     
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    See Ukraine, the U.S. is part of NATO, right..
     
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    LOL you think this comment explains how nato enriches terrorists? You get an F.
     
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    Clearly no one else does either, looking around at one war and another on the brink..

    Hey I get it, good way to funnel money that's the real purpose and the most obvious;)
     
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    It does when the question arose on hamas ended up armed with military weapons, same ones given to the Ukraine's;)
     
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    Not to mention the weapons that Biden gifted to the Taliban finding their way to Hamas.
     
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  12. truth and justice

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    LOL NATO has no obligation to get involved with what is happening in Ukraine and Israel. Why do you think Finland joined this year?

    What money is funneled? Are you against your government funding your military?
     
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    Oh dear! What military weapons are in Ukraine has nothing to do with NATO!
     
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    LOL Now NATO is to blame for weapons in Afghanistan.
     
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    Is the U.S. a member of nato ;)
     
  16. ButterBalls

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    We know, eyes wide shut, right ;) Wierd they are armed with same model Ukraine was gifted with..
     
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    The US can give weapons to whoever they like independently of NATO.
     
  18. ButterBalls

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    Ahhhh, you had to dodge. Better luck next lesson :roflol:
     
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  19. truth and justice

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    If I replied to this post with what I am thinking you'll report it so I don't want to upset you :wink:
     
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    Ahh they don't delete logical post :roflol:
     
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    I never mentioned NATO.
    Read much?
     
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    This thread is about NATO and your post quoted Butterballs post attempting to blame NATO for American weapons ending up in Ukraine and Hamas
     
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    Sorry... its an OPEN FORUM and if I wish to mention Afghanistan... I will.

    Oh, I forgot. Liberals censor free speech anywhere and anytime they want.
     
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    Who censored you?
     
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    You... reread your reaction to my mentioning Biden's gift of billions in weaponry to the Taliban.
     

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