Ohio passes Issue 1 ballot measure enshrining abortion protections

No, but your question is premised on an assumption.

how so?

Clause is incoherent

Clause is incoherent.

I'd agree that Thomas, Kavanaugh, and Alito are not fit for the job.

Comment lacks substantiation

Clause is incoherent. Possible voice-to-text issue?

Clause lacks substantiation, is incoherent if the clause is subordinate to the first.

I'm curious, is English your first language?

 

Keeping government out of our lives is always a good thing

 

That's not the point. A lot of people don't want to worry about that choice being removed from them precisely so that they can be allowed to focus on other things that might be more important to them.

 

It means more people agree with them than they do with you.

Next?

 

It's not just Democrats. Had to be a lot of Republicans voting for a constitutional amendment in a place like Ohio and all the other red states.

 

39% of those registered as Republicans (me included) and 37% of those who identify as evangelicals apparently voted for Issue One

 

This is how I fee issues like this were constitutionally designed to play out. (At a state level)

 

Republicans in power misjudged their parties views on Abortion bigly

 

If you feel that strongly about it why not fund research into miscarriages?

 

Since they aren't born, they don't do innocence or harm or guilt.
They just exist to feed of the host, until birth.
That's why they are not legal human beings with rights, except for the mother whom determines those rights. But really, it's the mother that has the rights. Since she's a human being.
You may not like that women have rights, but, that's the law.

 

So, in other words, you want to eliminate the following areas of government intrusions into 'our lives':

1. Public Infrastructure: Roads, bridges, public transportation systems, and utilities (like water and electricity supply) are typically funded and maintained by governments.
   
   
2. Healthcare and Public Health: Government-run or funded healthcare systems, vaccination programs, and public health initiatives (like disease control and prevention) are crucial for societal health.
   
   
3. Education: Public schools, universities, and educational grants or subsidies are often provided or regulated by governments.
   
   
4. Law and Order: The entire judicial system, including courts, law enforcement agencies, and prisons, are government functions essential for maintaining order and justice.
   
   
5. National Defense: The military and defense systems protect nations from external threats.
   
   
6. Economic Stability: Central banks, monetary policy, regulation of financial markets, and economic stimulus packages are typically government responsibilities.
   
   
7. Environmental Protection: Regulations and policies regarding pollution control, wildlife conservation, and sustainable resource management are enforced by governments.
   
   
8. Social Welfare Programs: Unemployment benefits, social security, disability insurance, and poverty alleviation programs are typically administered by governments.
   
   
9. Labor Laws and Worker Rights: Governments establish minimum wage laws, workplace safety regulations, and laws governing working conditions.
   
   
10. Scientific Research and Space Exploration: Many scientific advancements and space missions have been funded or conducted by government agencies.
    
    
11. Cultural Preservation and Promotion: Governments often fund arts, preserve historical sites, and promote cultural heritage.
    
    
12. Public Safety Regulations: Safety standards for food, medicines, and consumer products are often set and enforced by government agencies.
    
    
13. Urban Planning and Development: Zoning laws, urban development projects, and housing policies are typically managed by governments.
    
    
14. Emergency Services: Fire departments, emergency medical services, and disaster response units are often government-funded or organized.
    
    
15. Public Policy and Legislation: Laws and policies that shape societal norms and address emerging issues are formulated by governments.
    
    
16. International Diplomacy and Relations: Governments handle foreign relations, international treaties, and global cooperation initiatives.
    
    
17. Public Broadcasting and Information Services: Government-funded news and information services contribute to an informed citizenry.
    
    
18. Regulation of Industries: Governments regulate industries to ensure fair competition, consumer protection, and ethical business practices.
    
    
19. Public Recreation and Parks: Many recreational facilities, parks, and public spaces are maintained by governments.
    
    
20. Civil Rights and Social Justice Initiatives: Governments play a key role in promoting and protecting civil rights and advancing social justice causes.
    

Now, Doofen, I'm not going by what you think you said, I'm going by what you wrote,

If you meant something different, then you should say exactly what you mean.

As you have thus expressed yourself, you are for chaos, because, though some of the items may be debatable, most of them, at the minimum are necessary and without them, we would have anarchy and chaos.

Congratulations.

 

And yet your party is still trying to revoke the results they don’t like.

Ohio GOP lawmakers call to block courts from implementing new abortion amendment

 

Since they are living human beings and have done no harm they are innocent human beings. You just admitted they exist. They are human beings and our founding principles dictate that we do not get those basic rights from government, government does not make them legal government is here to PROTECT THEM. Did you not learn that in American History and Civics? NO ONE else including your mother determines your rights. Try ready our founding documents and the part about the self evident truth about our rights and what are those rights.

 

Yes what does that which is agreed upon, that unborn babies should be killed simply because their mother doesn't want them to be born, say about the current state of the country?

 

So lot of people don't want to worry about mother's killing their unborn babies simple because they don't want them to live so that they can be allowed to focus on other things that might be more important to them. It actually prevents them from thinking about anything else at all? REALLY?

 

You've shown no such thing and I await you doing so.

Cite the part of the Constitution that says you have 100% body autonomy and how that trumps the self evident right to your life. Then e

And do you believe possessing arms should be completely unrestricted, you know autonomy since it is SPECIFICALLY addressed in the Constitution.

 

I think arms on property you own should be completely unrestricted, but once you access public access, you accept certain restrictions as you do when you drive your car. Shipping hazardous materials for instance isnt unrestricted.

Liberty is similarly restricted. Your rights to body autonomy end when you violate anothers. A parasite for instance doesn't have a right to you.

So i never said arms and liberty should be 100% unrestricted, just that they are protected rights free from democracy, or the peoples will.

 

Leaving aside that a foetus is NOT a legal human being, your ‘rights’ extend only to the tip of my nose. As explained to you before, you have no right to force me into allowing you to use my body, even if it meant saving your life…

 

I'd say it means, at a minimum, the majority of people in Ohio (and elsewhere) think your characterization of the situtation is...... I dunno...... total crap?

 

I can really only repeat the previous post.

It says it all.

 

Seems the current GOP can't even accept the democratic process. Anything for power.

 

You said something about killing babies being the most important (political) issue in the country. It's not but people sure don't like having rights taken away from them that they had previously enjoyed for over 50 years, especially when a majority of the people trying to enact and enforce anti-abortion laws are never going to fall pregnant one single day in their lives.

Well maybe Lindsay Graham?

 

Yes that is what the Dems are claiming has brought them their political victory. Some said what does it say about a country which would restrict abortion I asked what does it say about a country that places mothers killing their unborn babies simply because they do not want them to live at the top of their list then.

They don't like mothers not being able to kill their unborn babies, why can't you deal directly with the issue here and instead dance around it. Yes let's talk about our self-evident inalienable rights and why you want to deny them to the unborn in lieu of some made up body autonomy argument. I asked to be shown where this is in our founding documents and get no answer. Where is this body autonomy in our US Code of laws.

 

What's crap about it, it is the reality.

 

It is a human being and our rights are INHERENT they don't come from government. Yes the baby has a nose too and those rights begin at creation.