With only 14 months left how can Joe Biden destroy America?

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How can Joe Biden destroy America?

  1. by starting or encouraging more wars

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  2. by lying constantly

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "how can Joe Biden destroy America?"

    by losing to Trump, let's hope that doesn't happen
     
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    Thread win !
     
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    well, the 20+ year war did set us on a bad path... I do wish Bush would have just did a quick few months aerial attack vs what he did

    as the truth is, at the time we had many hijackings, it was normalized, that is how this was allowed to happen, now passengers will fight to the death to prevent such, thus a 9-11 could not happen again
     
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    Prior to the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, Ukraine was a Russian state. After the fall, Ukraine declared its independence. Not all the people or politicians agreed, and the struggle between the pro-Russian side and the independent side inside Ukraine has been ongoing. The point is Russia was involved from the start, and never lost interest, despite openly recognizing Ukraine independence that year. While open military intervention wasn't happening 2022, support for the Russian sympathizers and the overthrow of independence always existed.

    2005, New president Yushchenko takes power with promises to lead Ukraine out of the Kremlin's orbit, towards NATO and the EU

    2008, NATO promises Ukraine it will some day join.

    2010, Yanukovich wins a presidential election.

    2013, Yanukovich's government suspends trade and association talks with the EU and opts to revive economic ties with Moscow, triggering months of mass rallies in Kyiv.

    2014, Parliament votes to remove Yanukovich after bloodshed in protests. Within days, armed men seize parliament in the Ukrainian region of Crimea and raise the Russian flag. Moscow later annexes the territory.

    April 2014: Pro-Russian separatists in the eastern region of Donbass declare independence. Some 15,000 people have been killed since 2014 in fighting between the separatists and the Ukrainian army, according to the Kyiv government.

    In 2021, Zelensy asks Biden to help Ukraine join NATO.

    All that PRIOR to 2022.

    The Ukraine was the largest of Russian possessions, with 55 million people. It was also the "breadbasket", the primary source of agricultural goods. Of all Russian states, it was the most valuable- and necessary. They want it back; that is why they are there....
     
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  5. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the eastern and southern part of Ukraine is pro Russia and the central and western part is pro EU then wouldn't the best solution be for Ukraine to split in two?
     
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    Then again, there are many levels of destruction :(
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And so many different things to destroy

    Stop countries from using the US dollar as the international exchange currency -
    Joe has made good progress on that

    Waste tons of money on wars, forget whatever country you are president of or
    senator of or whatever.

    Promise to fight every country, all at once even

    Promote weird people of no particular sex in the military

    Abruptly end energy supplies to the US

    Mistreat our allies

    Make everyone scared of a nuclear war

    Take away any sense of direction or purpose
     
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    You are well informed, careful, when it does go to crap you'll be sent off to re-education camp..
     
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    And yet the US has not been destroyed. Despite all the c##ty whining.
     
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    Depends on how you see it and how the hungry, homeless and dirt poor see it..

    I get it! Then again I feel more and MORE fortunate every month that goes by, but I know there are a great many that realize the opposit every month they endure..

    It really hard for the fortunate to relate, sympathize and in most cases believe the reality of these times :(

    Hope you had a wonderful tday, many millions had soup and sandwiches at a homeless center or soup kitchen
     
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    If hungry, homeless and dirt poor is the definition of “destroyed” then the entire world has been destroyed for a very long time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    That's because you and I aren't experiencing that sort of life and apparently one of us is not willing to recognize the devastated lives of a good many Americans young and old :(

    Sok bro, it's easier to ignore than face the ugliness of realty..

    Hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
     
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    You seem confused. For those people THEIR own world is devastating. They don’t consider the entire US as destroyed. They have eyes. They can actually see the US isn’t destroyed just like you and I can. Seems you think these people are too dumb to understand reality. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Since I can see this conversation is going down another rabbit hole I’m out. Enjoy the last word.
     
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    I think by now it's clear that a US president lacks the power to destroy the country. Shared power isn't just fairness; it's a hedge against incompetence. But if a president was able to ruin the country, it would have already happened, given some of the complete fools we have elected over the years.

    NATO and it's members have plenty of blame for Ukraine. The Soviet Union fell, abandoning communism, and we still keep on with NATO, half a century later. We put up nuclear missile shields, negating their nuclear capability, and the shield itself, uses Tomahawk missiles, for which the US has nuclear warheads that CAN be launched from the defense shield, and aimed at a target. Imagine the Bay of Pigs, but not just nukes next door, also a system that doesn't let you launch back. The US would never tolerate that and leave it to just....trust.

    Ukraine willingly giving up their nukes, is arguably the dumbest thing a group of humans has ever done, in the history of the galaxy.

    When nuclear war happens (not if but when), it will not be a huge country starting it. It will be a little dictator, or a terrorist.

    I can cite no US interest in the Ukraine war, aside from selling bombs. If Russia wiped them out, it would be sad, but would not impact the US, in any way.
     
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    Not what they see every day.. Like I say, people like you and I have it good.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/photos/tent-city
     
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    Shouldn't that be Ukraine's choice, not a choice imposed by Russia's military?
     
  19. yangforward

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    ? It's not a choice, Ukraine is not eligible to join NATO at present,
    NATO / OTAN membership is being dangled in front of Ukraine
    as an incentive to get it to fight in a war and kill as many
    Russians as possible.

    And the US would like to base missiles in Ukraine aimed at
    Russia to threaten the Russian public, and hope to produce
    a regime change allowing the US to take over Russia and
    divide it into 18 'Free Russian States', and rob them of their
    oil and gas.
     
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    Joe Biden has effectively already destroyed our country. It will be a miracle if we can come back from the devastation (our cities destroyed by crime, our borders breached by invaders, our economy ruined, the disrespect by other countries, the decimation of our military, shall I go on?) All he has to do now is continue the course.
     
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    LMAO, rightie doomsayer !

    What country are you moving to ? I’ll contribute to your bus fare .
     
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    Yes, he's done a lot of damage and the rest is just in the process of collapse.

    Taking just the dollar for example, despite excessive spending we have had the benefit of other
    countries using the dollar for international trade, and as a reserve currency.

    That allowed us to over-spend, yet other countries were getting the benefit of having access to
    a world medium of exchange and were fairly OK with the arrangement.
     
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    So Joe decided he was angry with Russia, as well as China, N. Korea, Iran, Palestine, Syria, and
    many other countries, so Joe so banned Russia from buying or selling using dollars, which affected
    a lot of the World's trade.

    And now everyone is having to set up an alternative currency, which could work out pretty well.

    But not for Joe public.

    But why would Joe Biden care?

    Why do we let one angry idiot wreck life for everyone else?
     
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    He can destroy it with even more crime.

    D.C. Liberals Get Jacked by Their Own Policies

    'A woman, her boyfriend and her sister were carjacked last Saturday night by four armed, masked men in Northwest D.C. in what used to be considered a safe neighborhood.'

    'Desperadoes driving behind the trio lightly tapped the rear bumper of their car. When the woman behind the wheel pulled over to inspect the damage, the ruffians got out, guns drawn. The innocent travelers were pulled out and left stranded on the curb, watching their car drive away.'

    'The woman reported what happened only to be informed by the cop on duty that she should spread the word that rear-end collision victims should stay in their vehicle and either drive to a nearby police station or call 911 to describe the car that hit them. This sort of robbery is now so common it’s been given its own name: “Bump-and-jack.”'

    We need to fire all cops that won't do their duty, and if necessary, replace them with private security on public payroll.

    You only wear the badge if you'll do the job.
     
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