Let me ask you folks a sincere question

It was more than the tacit consent of the US government. It was deliberately planned that way, just as Nuland and the rest planned to cause this trouble in Ukraine.

Most likely, what you describe after the collapse of the USSR was known as Project Hammer, a US plan for a covert economic war against Russia. Yeltsin was a traitor to his people, serving Bush and the rest in the US government.

 

HOW exactly was the US government RESPONSIBLE for the LAWLESSNESS in Russia?

WHY are you BLAMING another nation for the FAILURES of YOUR own leaders?

That is DISINGENUOUS.

 

'I HAD BEEN TOLD THIS KIND OF THING NEVER HAPPENED': Boston Children’s Hospital given $1.4 MILLION in taxpayer money for child sex changes.

The destruction of children.

 

I would only if my child told the teacher to keep it a secret from us as that would indicate my kid was doing it without our knowledge. That being said...kinda hard to keep changing genders a secret from parents. I think we might start to notice our son wearing dresses or our daughter getting a boys haircut and dressing like a boy. Would also notice if they asked for puberty blockers. Just saying.

 

They aren't doing genital surgeries on trans kids. That's the common lie. And what little gender affirming care that exists for these kids requires the same parental consent as other healthcare.

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-post-millennial/

Looks like you source just racked up yet another FALSE on it's fact check record.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/26/1119...Hospital,performs genital surgeries on minors.

Your source has ZERO credibility!

Priceless!

 

You are referring to a child believing he or she is actually the opposite sex, inwardly, right?

Yes, I'd want to know. The problem with making it a law or a rule to compel teachers to tell parents is that once kids find out about this policy, they will not tell their teacher or anyone whom they do not feel safe in telling if they know it gets back to their parents, parents who may be abusive.

Tough issue. I don't know the answer.

 

Is this possibly not a bad idea:

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9000168/pdf/jcm-11-01943.pdf

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65 were minors at the time of gender affirming surgery.

Doesn't look like any were minors who had genital surgery.

But are you ok with this?

 

In ORDER to have GAF they would have been ADOLESCENTS and for GAF to be EFFECTIVE there must have been enough tissue for there to be a need for surgery therefore they would ALL have been in LATE adolescence.

Can YOU establish that ANY of those surgeries were undertaken WITHOUT the CONSENT of a parent or guardian?

Am I OK with adolescents experiencing gender dysphoria receiving DEVELOPMENTALLY APPROPRIATE surgery to MEET their PHYSICAL, MENTAL and EMOTIONAL needs?

Given the ALTERNATIVE can be SUICIDE that makes it a CHOICE between the LIFE and the DEATH of a minor.

Are you OK with MINORS committing suicide because you OBJECT to how they SELF IDENTIFY?

 

Just to clarify, it is my understanding that gender-affirming surgery can also result in suicide. Is that correct?

Couldnt we also say...Given the result of this surgery can be suicide, that makes this a choice between life and death.

 

You're making a lot of assumptions.

First you're assuming surgery is needed. That's an opinion. There's nothing that suggests that their emotional needs, while minors, can't be met in other ways.

Second, NOBODY commits suicide because of someone else's opinion of them. If they commit suicide that is THEIR choice, period. It's an absolute garbage argument to say that Person A's opinion of Person B caused Person B to commit suicide. That's weak.

And we also have a LOT of data that suggests that this does not lead to long term happiness and THAT is why minors shouldn't be having elective surgery that can and has been detrimental to their mental health long term.

 

YOU provided a LINK to Gender reassignment SURGERIES!

Had you BOTHERED to actually READ your own LINK you would have REALIZED that ALL aspects of their NEEDS were CONSIDERED and that would have INCLUDED alternatives to surgery.

However those that elected ALTERNATIVES were EXCLUDED because the STUDY was FOCUSED on SURGERIES.

Your ASSUMPTION establishes that YOU didn't read and/or comprehend your own source.

ABSENCE of Subject Matter Knowledge WRT to Suicide duly noted.

https://www.health.com/condition/depression/why-do-people-commit-suicide

LACK of ACCEPTANCE by family, schools and peers is a PRIMARY factor for SUICIDES in the SUBSET of transpeople in YOUR cherry picked study.

Only ONE of us is using WEAK arguments and we both KNOW that it isn't me doing it.

Appeal to (imaginary) Authority Logical FALLACY duly noted.

The FACTUAL data DEBUNKS your BOGUS allegation above.

https://journals.lww.com/prsgo/fulltext/2022/06001/qs37__long_term_outcomes_after_gender_affirming.169.aspx#:~:text=Conclusion: Gender-affirming surgery is,without any reported patient regret.

https://www.gendergp.com/new-study-confirms-regret-rates-of-gender-affirming-surgery-are-non-existent/#:~:text=The study, published in 'Plastic,context of any healthcare outcomes.

Looks like the SCIENTIFIC FACTS are NOT your friend.

 

My point stands, this in no way proves that surgery was necessary.

It's still an assumption that surgery was necessary.

The personal attack against me for not reading and understanding isn't looking so good now.

My point is 100% fact. You commit suicide then it was YOUR choice. You may have many reasons for doing so, but it's ultimately your choice.

Stop dancing around this fact. My argument is 100% accurate, yours is semantics.

Yet another one of your personal attacks against me that isn't looking so good.

Ok clearly you don't have the same standards as I do. I can see how my statement was misleading to you.

When it comes to elective surgery, and that's exactly what this is, you can't have anything other than a miniscule percentage regretting their decision if you want to allow this in children/minors.

Most links to studies I've seen have all been over 1% regret, which is far too high.

This further strengthens my argument, not weakens it.

Scientific facts are always my friend....I'm not a leftist who only likes them when they go my way.

Lastly, you clearly can't post on this subject without getting highly emotional and using personal attacks with disturbing regularity. And because of that we're done here. Feel free to engage someone else from now on.

 

YOUR linked study was ONLY about NECESSARY surgeries.

It was NOT about the NEED for surgeries.

Your are MISREADING what was in the study AND my posts.

Pointing out the FACTS is not a "personal attack" and your CONTENT establishes that my OBSERVATION was ACCURATE.

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Victim BLAMING duly noted.

PROJECTION noted.

See prior response above.

Something we AGREE upon since I have ALWAYS maintained the HIGHEST possible standards for MYSELF when it comes to the ACCURACY of my CONTENT.

DISINGENUOUS misuse of the term "children" duly noted.

They are ADOLESCENTS with PARENTAL consent.

NONE of which you can provide to support your BOGUS allegation noted.

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/legend+in+his+own+mind

Then EXPLAIN why you have NOT provided ANY to support those "strong arguments" of yours?

ROFL!

IRONIC given that YOU have been falsely ACCUSING me of posting ad homs and yet the TOTALITY of your CONTENT boils down to VACUOUS allegations you CANNOT substantiate followed by an AD HOM and then a WHITE FLAG to cover your embarrassing RETREAT from this topic.

HILARIOUS!

 

I don't have kids, but I like to think I would raise them better than that, to be a teacher. A typical teacher had a below average SAT, below average grades, and was accepted to the Education department, as their third choice.

 

Xtofascist controlled GOP anti-Public Education DISINFORMATION content duly noted above.

 

Wow. Those are some buzzwords. Am I wrong though? No, I am not. These are facts that are well known to many. You are welcome to refute them, if you like.

What is "disinformation", exactly? Is it a lie? Is it propaganda? Is unconformable facts? No, it's just an oxymoron. There are only two choices: Information that is true, and information that is not true. It doesn't cease to exist, if it's incorrect.

But in this case, it is not incorrect. Teachers are among the least remarkable people in our society, among those who have a degree. Their job IS important. Very much so. But the skills to do the job, are common. Certainly at this level of routine national failure, these are easily replaceable employees. I can't imagine any industry, aside from maybe police, that would benefit so strongly, from a complete staff change.

 

Explain WHY 76% of American parents are SATISFIED with the TEACHERS and EDUCATION that their OWN kids are RECEIVING?

https://www.chalkbeat.org/2023/9/5/...f the country's,Gallup's survey began in 1999.

The Xtofascist controlled GOP is spreading DISINFORMATION about public education that is EXPOSED by the FACT that 76% of PARENTS rate their schools and TEACHERS as being EXCELLENT.

REALITY matters.

 

So should a 12 year child get a tattoo?

 

Who is the bully here:

 

The rhetoric gets more shrill: