This Is the ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE, We're Supposed to Trust

What the hell are you talking about? Who is the "they," of whom you speak-- Palestinian civilians? Hamas is an autocratic, heavily armed regime, which seized all power in the government, in 2007. Gaza residents are poor, often malnourished, and generally unarmed (the preferred weapon, seems to be rocks). How do you propose they "arrest" their despotic leaders? It is those who oppose Hamas, who often wind up imprisoned. The acts of Hamas are not "encourag(ed)" or "promot(ed)" by the Palestinian public, who I think are mostly worn down by, and tired of, the endless cycle of violence-- for which, it is they, who pay the highest price.

Again-- get up to speed: it was not "the Palistinians (sic)" who'd attacked and killed Israeli civilians, it was Hamas-- comprised of around only 40 thousand, out of the 2.2 million, in Gaza. Treating noncombatant citizens the same as enemy soldiers, is no less a crime when Israel does it, than when Hamas does.

 

The Palestinian police force answer to the govt. Hamas is effectively the govt of Gaza. Its detailed reasonably well in the first link I provided. Also here:

Governance of the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia
The governance of the Gaza Strip since the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip in June 2007 has been carried out by Hamas.[1][2][3] The Hamas government in Gaza was led by Ismail Haniyeh from 2007 until February 2017, when Haniyeh was replaced as leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip by Yahya Sinwar.[4] As of November 2023, Yahya Sinwar continues to be the leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

So, in order to take out Hamas, the Palestinians in Gaza would have to overthrow their govt.

Which isn't a bad idea imo, but hardly something you can just shell them for not doing...

 

Some problems with turning Gaza over to the PA after Israel is done destroying Hamas.

https://www.aljazeera.com › news › 2023 › 11 › 7 › in-the-midst-of-israels-assault-people-of-gaza-still-dont-want-the-pa
In the midst of Israel's assault, people of Gaza still don't want the PA

Gaza doesn't want to be ruled by the PA.

The PA is very reluctant to take it on.

Israel says no.

https://www.timesofisrael.com › liveblog_entry › netanyahu-reiterates-pa-cant-rule-gaza-israel-must-maintain-military-responsibility
Netanyahu reiterates PA can't rule Gaza, Israel ... - The Times of Israel
'Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu doubles down on his Saturday remark that the Palestinian Authority is not fit to govern Gaza should Israel...'

The PA already trying to run Gaza and failed. That's how Hamas came to power.

"Our Munich": Israel Plans To Hunt Down Hamas Operatives Living Abroad

'Turkish Intelligence issues counter-warning after Israeli defense chief lists several countries...'

Their goal is to kill Hamas; 'everywhere, in Gaza, in the West Bank, in Lebanon, in Turkey, in Qatar," said Ronen Bar, head of Israel's domestic security agency Shin Bet.'

 

I think anyone supporting what israel is doing, would have anyway.

 

Perhaps, but only because Israel has maintained such an effective propaganda campaign regarding the Palestinians. Most people simply don't understand the complexity of the situation there.

 

That Palestinians have no confidence in the P.A., is not news. Listen to human rights lawyer (of Palestinian descent) Noura Erakat, talk about them. It is a damning indictment she lays out, including, incredibly, the charge that the P.A. extrajudicially killed a Palestinian journalist.

https://youtube.com/shorts/bQbsBf0Gg7M?si=8ONahCx3G2OSc-zK


By the way, the "BDS," she mentions, which the Palestinian Authority has not even endorsed, stands for Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions. This is an idea of getting the world to pressure Israel, the same way it did South Africa, in getting that country it to end its own Apartheid. It is a call that went out in 2005, but the P.A., supposedly representing Palestinians, has not signed on with its support of this. Ms. Erakat, who is very familiar with life in the Occupied West Bank, where she has family, says that the P.A. "has become an arm and an extension of the Occupation."


In the video below, a South African lawmaker delivers an impassioned speech about the need, similarly, to isolate Israel, until they change what they are doing.

 

1200 is strategically insignificant compared to the strategic gains of having a green light to destroy Gaza, er Hamas. The main risk of doing it is getting caught and discredited, not the loss of life. Clearly, loss of life means nothing to them.

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAA!

The Babylon Bee STRIKES again and TRIGGERS the right with SATIRICAL nonsense.

Priceless!

 

They even describe themselves as a satirical publication and Zorro believes what they write!

 

That is why I coined the term "zorro logic".

 

What is it you do not think I am being "honest" about? Im not familiar with Netanyahu's corruption allegations but I bet they are no where near the level of corruption by MY own President.

 

Ohh, you need a rabbit chased do you? As for your dishonesty, you are best suited to expound on that since you appear to initially quote me without any point but maybe to pester.

 

The police are the ones who use "arbitrary detention, torture, punishment beatings and the death penalty" to ensure the continued rule of Hamas.

 

Ya, pretty much. That's why I don't think its reasonable to expect the people living under such conditions to be able to expel themselves out of it. Not without a lot of guns, anyway. And as I understand it, Hamas tend to be the ones with all the guns in Gaza.

 

The deeper the understanding of the complexities, the deeper the support for Israel.

 

You were asking if its OK to "shell" Hamas, not the
people" living under Hamas.

 

Its not that Israel is 100% right; its the fact that hamas places innocent people in harms way for the purpose of selling more Jew hate. They launch rockets from hospitals and schools to draw fire and blame Israel for casualties. until they care about their own people, there is little we can do to protect them.

 

You make an understandable point, but put things in perspective. It takes perhaps a few thousand cancer cells to cause your entire body to DIE, and so, to combat that, a person will surely be required to take chemotherapy which involves very large infusions that affect his entire body and everything in it -- if you want to live.

What is getting very little 'press' is the revelation that the large majority of "Palestinians" approve of what Hamas did on October 7th! Here's the link: https://www.jns.org/three-in-four-palestinians-support-hamass-massacre/

In the story, you see:

"(November 17, 2023 / JNS)
Slightly more than three in four Palestinians have a positive view of Hamas in the wake of its Oct. 7 terrorist attacks in Israel, according to a survey by the Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD) research firm."