Question for Trump supporters.

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  1. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I’m like around the 25% of the electorate that today are stating if there’s a rematch next November, they’ll be voting third party. Be that RFK Jr. Cornell West, Green Party Stein, the Libertarian or whoever the no labels party comes up with.
     
  2. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only democrats think Biden has done a good job. They’re the only ones who approve of the job he’s done. Here:

    Overall job approval 40.6%, disapproval 55.5%

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html

    Economy 38.4% approve, 59.0% disapprove

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_biden_job_approval_economy-7321.html

    Inflation 35.0% approve, 61.8% disapprove

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_biden_approval_inflation-7832.html

    Immigration 34.5% approve, 62.5% disapprove

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-immigration-7359.html

    Foreign Policy 36.8% approve, 59.8% disapprove

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_biden_job_approval_foreign_policy-7322.html

    Crime 36.8% approve, 57.8% disapprove

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_biden_approval_crime-7833.html

    The difference between the dislike and unwantedness of Trump and Biden is most Americans dislike Trump the individual, the man, the person. They don’t like his obnoxious, rude, uncouth personality or his childish antics like name calling and throwing temper tantrums along with his 3rd grade schoolyard bullying tactics. With Biden, it’s more about a poor job performance along with a major concern about his age. Can Biden survive another 4 years as president, what about his mental acumen? Biden does look old and frail.
     
  3. yardmeat

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    Then you didn't understand the sentence provided. Would you like me to try again? Hint: there is an EVIDENTIARY STANDARD for criminal investigations. No one has been able to argue that this standard has been met. If you can't address this basic fact, then I'm sorry, but you are the only taking your ball and going home and telling people what they are allowed to think.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Depending on who the no labels party comes up with for their candidates, RFK Jr. probably would be my case. About all I know now is I’m not going to vote for Trump nor for Biden for various reasons.
     
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    Sounds like a campaign, the season is open !
     
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    How did you get to that belief? "The 9 to 5'er", "the paycheck to paycherk'er". Why would you believe tRaitor tRump could understand that American when:
    • He's never worked hourly in his life
    • His dad gave him millions of dollars
    • He didn't pay the sub-contractors that worked on his buildings
    • He set up a "university" expressly designed to bilk people out of their money
    • He defrauded his charity for childhood cancer patients.
    • He's been sued for molesting a women, and lost
    • He over or under valued his properties as it suited his needs to either not owe taxes or to get favorable deals on loans
    • He for hours he watched OUR Capitol getting attacked and vandalized, police brutalized, a woman shot and killed ... and refused to call off his dogs
    Those are just "off the top of my head". What about tRaitor tRump makes you "tingle"?

    He makes me ... sick.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    Let's start over.

    What link what question .
     
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    Gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelet
     
  11. Noone

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    Wuuut? Just the one highlighted contractor was ruined because tRaitor tRump didn't pay his bill. There were 60 lawsuits, hundreds of liens and judgements against tRaitor tRump ... that's breaking eggs. Defrauding small business owners that depend on contracts being honored to feed their families and stay in business ... you equate that to making an omelet? What kid of person are you that thinks that is anywhere near OK? :wtf:
     
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    The fact that his brother, son, and daughter in law, laundered millions through 24 illegal shell companies from foreign nationals, while they hosted Joe Biden meetings with these same foreign nationals, and they can't come up with a single product or service they were selling other than Biden influence.
     
  13. Lee Atwater

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    Based on your post it makes it sound as though his supports are ignorant bigots. Do you think that is true?
     
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    You've shown no evidence of money laundering. At all. Only your personal suspicions. That's it. And you've shown no evidence of any actual influence. You will fail again when I ask again.
     
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    Breaking generational business's to make your bottom line better is your idea of breaking e
    There is no proof of any of that. But IF there EVER is any found, bring it on! Let's prosecute the SOB. I guess you missed the deal with the Saudis that gave Jarvanka 2 billion dollars; that is documented.
     
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    You should catch up with current events
    The shell companies have been exposed
    They were not reported to the IRS
    That makes any money going through them money laundering
    Try again
     
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    You first. :wtf:
     
  18. Lee Atwater

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    I could have saved you the time by stipulating to what the polls say. My point is there is a disconnect between reality and the polls. A couple of points about your list.
    The economy is doing extremely well. There is no credible way to solely blame Biden for inflation. Biden was saddled with a dysfunctional immigration system, one he has offered to reform since day 1 of his admin without a willing partner. There are misconceptions about crime that belie the facts. Like shoplifting nationally being down 7% since 2019. I understand people being frustrated with the expense of aid to Ukraine, but it's the smart thing to do.
     
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    A well endowed gentleman and a scholar.
     
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    Not interested in your bragging, but on the last two points, I disagree.
     
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    You mean the deal with the Saudis that is legally documented and reported to the SEC? You mean that one?
    So you think that is illegal, but having 24 unregistered shell companies washing millions from foreign nationals not reported to the IRS to run money through isn't evidence of anything?
    You're hilarious
     
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    Oh thats too bad
     
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    Your link was about the Mar a Lago search. My statement was about the proposed investigation into Joe Biden requiring an evidentiary standard that has not been met.
     
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    You should catch up. Nothing provided ties this to Joe Biden or shows money laundering. Even Comer admitted he can't prove that.
     
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    No, I'm saying what's soup for the goose is soup for the gander. What President Biden's family has done isn't a reflection on him. Anymore that what Javanka does reflects on tRaitor tRump. Actually I kinda feel bad for tRaitor tRumps family.
     

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