Trump recorded pressuring Wayne County canvassers not to certify 2020 vote

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  1. Arkanis

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    Then-President Donald Trump personally pressured two Republican members of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers not to sign the certification of the 2020 presidential election, according to recordings reviewed by The Detroit News and revealed publicly for the first time.

    On a Nov. 17, 2020, phone call, which also involved Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, Trump told Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, the two GOP Wayne County canvassers, they'd look "terrible" if they signed the documents after they first voted in opposition and then later in the same meeting voted to approve certification of the county’s election results, according to the recordings.

    "We've got to fight for our country," said Trump on the recordings, made by a person who was present for the call with Palmer and Hartmann. "We can't let these people take our country away from us."

    McDaniel, a Michigan native and the leader of the Republican Party nationally, said at another point in the call, "If you can go home tonight, do not sign it. ... We will get you attorneys."

    To which Trump added: "We'll take care of that."

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...ot-to-certify-2020-vote-michigan/72004514007/

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    Fortunately for Trump, his lawyers are as crazy as he is.

    No mentally stable lawyer would defend a guy who left behind such incriminating evidence.

    Will charges also be brought against Ronna McDaniel?

    Why not?
     
  2. Andrew Jackson

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    Unreal story...
    Trump is crazy...and delusional...
    Still great to see Michigan 2020 back in the news...
    Weird Hot Melissa Carone...
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    nothing illegal there, he wanted them to hold off on certifying fake mail in ballots. It looks like as usual Trump is on the side of democracy.
     
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  4. Steve N

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    I'll bet libs cheered, maybe even had orgasms, when they heard about the 'faithless electors' who were pressured in 2016. So why all the commotion now?
     
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    What gobsmacks me is not how criminal he isbut how exceedingly incompetent he is. Career criminals must be doing so much eye rolling they can see their own hair follicles!
     
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    how
    How many did Obama call?
     
  7. Arkanis

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    LoL

    How can Trump have proof of fraud when no member of his administration had access to the ballots or was present during the counting?

    No irregularities reported in Wayne County....

    Michigan Republicans eviscerate Trump voter fraud claims in scathing report
     
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    :roflol:
    2 Totally DIFFERENT Situations...
    Not comparable, whatsover...
    Totally LMAO at it even being brought up (in an epically-failed attempt to draw an incredibly misguided "equivalency")...:bored:
     
  9. Steve N

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    Are you implying the people who did call are insurrectionists?
     
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    Possibly - name them
     
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    Trump is gonna die in prison.
     
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    If he doesn’t have a heart attack beforehand
     
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    I’m saying it’s wildly inappropriate for the president to be doing this.
     
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    I can't even imagine what their reaction would be if Obama was caught pressuring electors to not certify the 2016 election.

    Since its Trump, they just shrug their shoulders. Its unbelievable the stuff he gets away with.
     
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    MI attorney general should be pressing charges, another crime by Trump, and on tape.
     
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    At that point (mid November), it was merely another sample of the crime he's charged with, Conspiracy to Defraud the United States (AKA Count #1) The violent insurrection part came a bit later, as you'll recall....

    As to the OP question about Ronna Romney McRomney, I'd need to hear more of what she said on the call before considering charges.
     
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    and if elected, each of these things he did is impeachable
     
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    Remember folks. This is a nothingburger according to rightists. The real crimes are loan repayment checks to Ole Joe from 2018 while he was a private citizen. LOL
     
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    The Debil himself, Steveadoor Bazzon AKA Dr. Evil, would like Don Jr, to be RNC chair. Ronna Romney will be heading back to her roots soon...:).
     
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    Trump knows that if SCOTUS rejects his immunity claim, he’s finished.

    Question; Whether Trump is immune or not, who wants a definitive decision ASAP?

    Answer; Certainly not Trump, and his loyalists.
     
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    If he gets what he wants and MAGA is on board, that means Biden is the ruling King......either way they will be ****ed.
     
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    If I remember correctly Wayne County counted more votes than its population. Suggesting that the election certification be delayed for investigation is normal politics in situations like this.
     
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    That's the problem, you don't remember correctly. There was no irregularities or fraud in Wayne County.
     
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    I do love how Biden’s family using their last name is all it takes for Biden to be guilty even though there is zero evidence he was involved but trump directly getting involved and pressuring individuals for the goal of stealing an election is met with shrugs.

    It’s fascinating
     
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    The concept, "Faithless Electors" would be anathema to our founders. They instituted the EC for the very purpose of keeping an unqualified, low morals, devious conman like tRaitor tRump from becoming President. They didn't trust the general population to resist a glib, unsavory person of questionable motives and elect them to the seat of "High Magistrate". They thought the EC, made up of educated men of impeccable character would vote against such, IF the populous elected him. We see now, that the bastardized version of the EC is a failure of purpose.
     
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