Trump-Appointed Judge Halts Removal of Confederate Memorial at Arlington Cemetery

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    sounds the the monuments to confess are not working then Lol
     
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    Yeah. I’m going to go with the more knowledgeable

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/...p-it-how-the-federal-budget-surplus-happened/
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds to me like the concerted effort of progressive radicals to take over education and eliminate history are working just fine.
     
  4. The Mello Guy

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    Based on your unproven claims that people don’t know who fought in the civil war? Lol ok
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/27/politics/what-matters-august-26/index.html


    Yeah, who could possibly be perpetrating this non-sense indoctrination to try to ease their party affiliation guilt?

    "It was us that supported slavery, but now it's THEM who fought against us and won that are the bad ones"

    Yet 80% of blacks vote for their oppressors.

    Democrats keep saying, pushing, and indoctrinating "Republicans are racist". Ironic considering historically, the Republicans have always been the party of racial equality.

    If you can't see the indoctrination, you're being intentionally blind.
     
  6. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Oppressors? Are there people alive today who owned slaves? Geez do you also think we should pay reparations?
     
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    Say wha? lol


    Here's the Long List of Topics Republicans Want Banned ...
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    Education Week
    https://www.edweek.org › policy-politics › 2022/02

    Feb 2, 2022 — There are now 61 censorship bills proposed in 24 states. One legislator wants teachers to pay $10000 for teaching "critical race theory."
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's funny, whenever you talk about racism or oppression that involves Republicans, your quick to point it out.

    When however you try to make points about the Confederacy or slavery, suddenly you don't point to party.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1067885909/


    And of which grand party was Sir Alexander Stephens? The VP of the Confederacy? Democrat. Of course.

    Odd, that never makes its way into any of your posts.

    You know what DOES constantly make it into your posts?

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1067898068/

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1074194681/

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1073254566/

    The indoctrination is perpetrated by the loyalists. You do it right here on this forum.

    Sorry you support a party that has been on the wrong side of race for its entire history and just recently elected to try to change the narrative to get votes.
     
  9. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not a republican. Nice try at deflection.

    You agree that Democrats are trying to indoctrinate, but feel it's OK "because republicans"?
     
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    Yah I point out current stuff, I don’t blame people for something someone else did 159 years ago lol
     
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    they were southern conservatives...
     
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    Here is what the American soldiers who defeated the Nazis thought about American black soldiers. Is it time to pull down the war monuments to the greatest generation?
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    Sounds like 80% of blacks know whose voter base thinks they are too stupid or lazy to know which party is in favour of oppressing then NOW. All they would have to do to work that out is spend a few short minutes reading the countless comments by Republicans who think they are too stupid to tell the difference between 1865 & 2023.

    They could also have a quick look at Congress, where one party currently has more black members than the TOTAL number the other party has sent in the entire history of the US, while that latter party claims to be a 'meritocracy' (apparently the third of the population that is white & male has 80%+ of the 'merit')

    The funny thing is that no matter how often you point this stuff out it makes no difference - the same people just endlessly repeat the same stuff time & again, either because they can't accept that black people are intelligent enough to work this stuff out or they just can't admit the truth to themselves.
     
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    Oh, and since the topic of the thread is monuments, anyone who thinks removing a monument is 'erasing history' simply doesn't know enough about what history is to even have that discussion. Statues don't create history, removing them doesn't erase it.

    That is neither an argument for or against putting up or taking down statues, but it is an argument against the mindless repetition of dumb arguments.

    Also, a four year period when the region you now live in rebelled against the US government to preserve slavery is not worth defending, especially with weasel words like 'our heritage', unless what you are trying to defend is something a LOT nastier....like the entirety of slavery or reconstruction, for instance. And again, the same people defending 'our heritage' also seem to want to make it about how evil Democrats are. That is just as much 'our heritage' as the statues of racist traitors put up to remind black people where their place was, you don't get to pick & choose for modern political reasons.

    Personally I am a case by case person when it comes to statues. If the only (or main) reason someone gets a statue is because they betrayed their nation to fight for slavery then they should never have been memorialized in the first place. If someone is being memorialized for actual good reasons but tangentially did something bad not related to that reason then the case for removal is not as good (though it may still exist). There isn't a 'one size fits all' option here.
     
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    How convenient for your newly found race relations wokeism.

    Like aligning yourself with the KKK but claiming the new found members and objectives are better than the white nationalists of today.

    Your party has historically, and continues to use blacks to further their self interests. Regardless of that is cotton farming or dependence on government for power and control through the voting blocks. It's all the same thing, just a change of what the Democrats need from blacks.

    To claim the conservatives are the racists is just part of the larger agenda to manipulate and use blacks.
     
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    which Candidate did the KKK support, seems it was Trump...
     
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    Because liberals repeat the same non-sense over and over doesn't make it factual.

    Yeah? Post some.

    You know what i can post? Comments from leadership of the DNC claiming blacks don't know how to use the internet or obtain a government ID.

    The entirety of the lefts policies to "help" blacks is based on a racist perspective implored by idiots who believe their racism sits on an ivory tower and is thus then justified.

    EXACTLY like this. Thus is called racism. The lefts just too ignorant to realize it.

    Let's use a little logic here. Where does a higher concentration of blacks live? Urban areas. And how do these urban areas vote? Democrat.

    So, you have more blacks running for office in higher percentages. OMG! They have more representation! You thinking it's because the rural and suburban voting districts must be racist is just silly and another indication of the lefts inherent desire for racial division.

    Lets try these instead: what was the first party to run and elect multiple blacks to the House of Representatives?


    75% of the US population is white. 31% are white males. Two criteria.

    More games by the racist left.

    What's the population of black males? You know... two criteria like the above.

    6%. Six. By the way, I had to calculate that because it's not published anywhere. But the number of white males is widely published. You know... 'cause racism.



    because its all BS. It's presented to DIVIDE. that's the entire goal of the Democrats and YOU. Division. Based on race.

    It's racism, used for your preview partisan agenda. Nothing less, nothing more. And it's based on shitty facts that connect a whole lot of dots that aren't there.

    Is this all because Democrats have been on the wrong side of blacks for all of US history, and feel a deep guilt they need to try to resolve? Uh-huh. It is.
     
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    When they launch a rebellion we can talk about it
     
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    Never met a klansman and I don’t blame pekple for what other people did 150 years ago. Obviously you do,
     
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    this statue is being moved to private property, if you or anyone else wants to visit it, you still can
     
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    Why is a traitor to USA even anywhere near the National cemetery of the USA?
     
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    Probably because he's talking about TODAY, not stuck in the past when the parties of today had reverse ideologies...

    9/16/1964
     
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    So, you don't support affirmative action, diversity and inclusion goals, or the host of other racist programs designed to "right the wrong" of Democrats actions?

    And it wasn't 150 years ago.

    Democrats have been persecuting blacks much more recently than that.
     
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    Nobody is blamed by the programs you mentioned.
     
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    The dignity of Americans. We are a country that fights. They lost and they know it but it’s a way of allowing them to remember when they gave their state rights one hell of a run. You have to understand the pride back then in statehood to understand these memorials.
     

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