Israeli military shot and killed three hostages

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  1. Iranian Monitor

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    yeah, yeah, yeah...Hamas and its secret control over the world's propaganda machinery...and the gullible people in Gaza not being able to see the prosperity and democracy and all the apple pie if they just stopped resisting...rapists might think that way too...
     
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    It was a massacre of defenseless women and children which is exactly what Hamas did Oct 7. The difference is only the the scale of the Hamas massacre on October 7 was an order of magnitude greater in numbers killed. So if you call Oct 7 a great military victory then you must also consider Wounded Knee to be a great military victory and you consider the massacre of women and children to be military victories. Is that correct? I could be wrong.
     
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    Hamas controls the civilians in Gaza just as the Nazi’s controlled the civilians in Germany and the Samurais controlled the civilians in Japan. Once the evil control was completely removed Germany and Japan literally rose from ashes with the help of the free world democracies to become two of the most successful nation states in the world. This was the result of democratic governance and free market economics. The same could happen in Gaza after the removal of Hamas. Gaza could have been the Shanghai of the Middle East. But Hamas/Iran destroyed that and the lives of Gazan civilians.
     
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    Most of those campus rabble rousers couldn't have pointed to Israel on a globe on 10/6. They also didn't own all those pali flags that have appeared out of nowhere that they use to show their support of terrorism and evil, though many of them have nary a clue what they're even endorsing, they just know what the cool kids are supporting (even though the 'cool kids' don't have a clue, either), so they mimic what they're seeing from their peers and unfortunately, uni staff as well.

    It's a crying shame what our institutions of 'advanced learning' have turned into. Even worse is that it's by design.
     
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    When it all started it wasn't racial but tribal and cultural. Fast forward to a period where power had shifted to western Europe, no longer to "Yunan" or Rum" as the Persians called the Greeks and then the Romans, but to the more physically distinguishable "franks" (as the Persian and Muslim world referred to western Europeans -- whether French, British, or German -- and a racial component begins to take shape. You should read the passage below bearing this fact in mind (for reasons that I will have to explain later, all relevant to the war in Palestine):

    In order to increase Greek morale, a series of what might be termed “cathartic” images were created on stage, in sculpture, and in the other arts. These disparaged, degraded, and belittled the Persians and confirmed Greek (especially Athenian) pre-eminence.


    One such object is a red-figured wine-jug dated to the mid-460s BCE. Known as the “Eurymedon Vase,” it shows a humiliated Persian soldier bending forward from the waist. His backside is offered up to a grubby Athenian squaddie .... The painted rape scene (for that’s what it is) was created as a “commemorative issue” at the time the Athenians celebrated a victory over Persian forces at the battle of the River Eurymedon in Asia Minor in 467 BCE. It was used at some kind of drinking party, probably a soldiers’ get-together. As the jug was passed around a group of hoplites—the Greek equivalent of GIs—so the wine flowed and the dirty jokes began to fly. So too was the Persian on the vase manhandled from soldier to soldier.
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    Where does this image of a humiliated, defeated, defunct Persia take us? It takes us directly to the era of the European Enlightenment, when intellectuals began to theorize as to why the West had become so dominant in the world order and had been so successful in the spread of white civilization. They came up with a radical theory: European superiority came not from Christianity, as had previously been thought throughout the Middle Ages and Renaissance, but from a cultural tradition that began in ancient Greece.
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    The Greeks, they stipulated, invented freedom and rationality. Rome then spread these precious gifts across Europe in a series of civilizing imperial conquests. Other cultures on the fringes of Greece and Rome were barbaric and the worst and most threatening of all barbarians were the Persians, with their quest for world domination. This was contrary to the natural order of white supremacy.
     
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    Do you wish to re-write all facts and pretend Hamas didn't need to get passed a highly sophisticated military cage Israel considered impenetrable, over-come Israeli military bases and several division sized IDF units guarding the border? Do you like to forget how many IDF soldiers were killed, how many wounded, during the Oct 7 assault?

    I am talking to someone who either believes or pretends to believe in Biblical tales as history, so I guess I shouldn't expect too much in how you want to paint Oct 7. Especially since the propaganda mouth-pieces that actually do brain-wash people have been quite busy since Oct 7!
     
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    Since you won’t answer I can only conclude that you think that you think Wounded Knee was a great military victory. There were Indian braves massacred at Wounded Knee as well. This event is a black mark against the US military just as October 7 is a black mark against Hamas.
     
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    No, but I think those who think what Israel is doing in Gaza, could think that way.
     
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    Wounded Knee and October 7 are the same thing. How can you justify the massacre of women and children on October 7 and condemn the same at Wounded Knee.

    There were Indian braves massacred at Wounded Knee as well. This event is a black mark against the US military just as October 7 is a black mark against Hamas.

    Massacring a few soldiers or Indian braves does not legitimize the barbaric and inhumane torture, murder, and desecration of civilians.
     
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    Oct 7 was the most spectacular and ambitious military operation witnessed in the last century.

    Prove me wrong.
     
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    I feel sorry for you.
     
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    Oct 7 was the most ambitious, spectacular and couregeous military operation in the last last century since Nat Turners revolt in USA.
     
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    So you can't prove me wrong.

    No Biggie, we all take Ls
     
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    Utter garbage disinformation
     
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    I already have proven you and IM wrong.
     
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    In your own mind...
     
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    You are cheering on the massacre of defenceless women and children by Israel. You are no different to a Hamas supporter
     
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    In reality.
     
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    Any loss of life is tragic. But the lesson of WWII is clear. Hamas is thd enemy of both Israeli and Gazan civilians.
     
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    Oct 7 was the most spectacular and ambitious military operation witnessed in the last century.

    Prove me wrong.
     
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    You don't care about the loss of any Palestinian lives or Israeli hostages. You are just like a Hamas supporter
     
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    Since when is mass murder and rape of innocents a military victory? Only in the minds of psychotics! Hamas is getting what it deserves.
     
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    icannot find any credible information or evidence to support the claim that Hamas committed mass rape or mass murder, they killed hundreds of IDF though which is what happens in war, soldiers die. It's crucial to verify such serious allegations through reliable sources before sharing or believing them.
     
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    Nice to see you admit that Hamas does not care about Gazan/Palestinian lives or the lives of Israeli hostages.

    I have clearly stated multiple times that any loss of life is tragic.
     

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