We see the question arising time after time: Should you be allowed to identify with a gender of your choice? Well, of course, this is allowed. We live in a free country! However, (and now we are hitting a major point), one must not derive any additional rights or privileges from it! Being a pensioner, I could (if I wanted), identify myself with a 16-year-old youngster. But this should not give me the right to participate in junior sports or qualify for a scholarship for young people. And I certainly should not be empowered to force people to address me with: "young man" at the consequence of losing their job if they don't. But for all the rest, you are free to identify with the birds in the sky if you want, we live in a free democracy. Talking about gender and being special, here is my advice to the young generation: Your gender is not a quality or achievement to be proud of. Nor is it to be ashamed of. It is just how one is born. So, if you want to be special, be special through your acts and achievements in his world, not through your gender.
Good to hear you're against anyone trying to force their views onto others. I'm not sure how specifically you've been forced to comply with peoples views on transgender. Speaking for myself I've never been forced by anyone to comply with their views. I'm guessing you're pro-choice since you're against people forcing others to comply with their views.
I think a lot of I interest in transexuals a few years back created this trend. When you would read about a man wanting to be a woman and going through that process a lot of people found this very interesting. It's kind of like multiple personality disorder. It's not real there is no evidence that it is a psychosis. But it has gained some popularity. And if you look around you'll find people that are trying to create this community around what they call D.I.D. I only mention this to point out a social phenomenon that happened with much more acceptance with the concept of gender identity. From the people who identify this way they range from actual transexuals to men that want to wear dresses to drag queens. There seems to be a lot of fetishists jumping in. Mostly men that like to mix up what is associated with sex. Makeup, female clothes do forth. To the point it isn't rebellious anymore. Essentially gender identity is a fashion trend and it'll trying it's course. I predict the fashion of mental disability will be next. As people love to identify as neurodivergent even some people pretend to have tourette syndrome, and the aforementioned D.I.D. (multiple personalities) as well as on the (autism) spectrum.
At times people have to be forced to comply. That's called a social standard. I identify someone who likes to drive 105 miles an hour but I will get a ticket if I do that so my identity must be discriminated against for the safety of others.
Only if you are on a public roadway where you are a danger to others. If you are on your own property on a private roadway, you're free to open her up. Or hit the autobahn and let 'er rip. You can't legitimately force others to participate in your delusion. You can ask them to, but where the laws are legitimate, their response to your request is their right, and you have a duty to respect their right of refusal. Your commitment to the rights of others isn't tested by folks that agree with you, rather it's tested when you face disagreement. That's when you discover for yourself if you are for real, or just another virtue signaller.
I have to lean to the old libertarian philosophy. My right to swing my fist in that someone else's face. So my right to identify as whatever I want ins at someone's right to identify me as whatever they want. I can identify as a transphibian but I can't force people to accept me that way and I think that's the best way to deal with this it doesn't hurt anybody and nobody is forced to accept something that they don't think is real. I feel this way about transmit and I'm sure straight men feel this way about trans women I identify trans men as women. You don't have any right to tell me that I must identify them as men.
For me it brings up the more interesting question of why do we gender segregate certain aspects of society and should we. In some cases (such as combat sports) I agree with should. In other cases it I see less reason why. Gender neutral bathrooms work if you have private stalls, for example.
I agree with this. And when I hear the phrase "you deny my existence" or "you deny my lived reality", I can't say that it convinces me they should get to control my perception or my telling the truth of it.
Anecdotes can matter, since it is somebody's personal experience. We should strive to make their lives not miserable, but not at the cost of lying about our perception of reality.
Well the comeback you deny my existence is only if you're existence requires me to accept something that's preposterous. And deny your reality of course if you believe you were born a male and somehow are a woman then your reality doesn't exist.
I never said that they were unimportant. If someone wishes to extend another the courtesy of participating in their fiction, that's fine. Do you not understand that I draw the law at compulsion? It's not just 'my reality' that an XX person is a woman and an XY person is a man, that is the hard fact of reality. If a man want to pretend that they are woman, I'll likely extend them courtesy of playing along as long as it doesn't harm others, but that's my choice. Like this horse crap that gender is 'assigned at birth' as if it's just someone's opinion. It's not assigned, it's observed.
