Bill Clinton to be identified in previously redacted Jeffrey Epstein documents: Report

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  1. Nwolfe35

    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    And Bill Clinton's definition of "young" is in line with Trump's definition. There is no evidence that Clinton (or Trump) engaged in any illegal sexual encounters as part of their relationship with Epstein.

    It is, of course, not going to stop anyone from insinuating stuff about either one.
     
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    If the court rejected ALL her allegations then why was Trump ordered to pay her $5 million?
     
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    Nowhere in the document drop does it say Trump went to Epstein's home or island. Your argument is very imaginative, but it is actually inaccurate.

    In fact, we know from Florida prosecutors that once Trump found out what Epstein was up to he was the only person who helped the prosecution go after Epstein. Everyone else they asked for help refused to do so.

    I'm curious to see what extremist source you used to come up with this hyper-partisan misinformation. Are you willing to share?
     
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  4. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are both infamous playboys and womanizers to some extent. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if both gave Epstein's "massages" a try at some point. But it would be up to victimized women to come forward about that, and so far none have that I'm aware of.
     
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    There is a literal black book style list (see OP). We want to see what's on it.
     
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    I didnt say they rejected all her allegations. Just the rape allegations. He kissed her and got handsy with her according to the court decision.
     
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    Actually Trump pointed out with a critical tone that Epstein likes them really young as in under legal age and kicked Epstein out of his club for hitting on an underage girl at Maralago.
     
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    So What?
    "We want to see" what's under every hot girl's dress, also...
    Sometimes things just don't work yet...
    Regardless of what somebody "wants to see"...
    Nobody is owed anything or entitled to "see" anything....
    Such is life...oh well...ain't that a bee...
     
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    Absolutely. Publish everything. But at the same time, don't try to read too much into what you see.
     
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    Its part of a public court case dude. You can't keep that kind of **** under seal forever, we don't do star chamber proceedings.
     
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    Good for him. I have never accused Trump of going after underage girls. He cheats on his wives with people who are of legal age.
     
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    He sexually assaulted her according to the Jury decision. This includes penetrating her with his fingers. That's a hell of a lot more than "getting handsy"

    And they didn't "reject" the rape allegations. They just weren't able to say that the evidence showed she was raped.
     
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    You saved me from making the very same post - and you said it far better than I would have. How low does a person have to sink in order to lose support?
     
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    That’s assault
     
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    ??? Which is a rejection of the claim by the court. And this was a civil trial, she only needed to show by a preponderance of the evidence that it was more likely than not.
     
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    Yeah, thats because Bill Clinton's definition of "young" is NOT in line with Trump's definition. I was refuting your actual accusation.
     
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    If it was Biden having made eye contact with Epstein while dining at the same restaurant, rumors would be swirling today. Trump is being protected.
     
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    The judge clarified the decision.

    “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove she was “‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape’.

    Indeed as the evidence at trail recounted below makes clear, the jury found Mr. Trump did in fact exactly that.”

    He penetrated her or as you said, “got handstand with her”.
     
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    Lovely autocorrect. It should be ‘handsy’.
     
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    I, of course was using the word rape as defined by New York Penal law and not as "many people commonly understand".
    And she was flirting with him and he was flirting with her. Whatever she alleges happened, she didnt make a sound. Says because thats the way she is. Many people commonly understand that to not even be sexual abuse let alone rape.
     
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    We already know Bill likes em young, so what? I want to see the other people on THE LIST
     
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    She should have objected. Especially because a moment earlier she was flirting with him and accepted his invitation to go into the dressing room with him.
     
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    This is just from a civil trial. Schumer is blocking the release of the flight logs that would list the names of people who went to his Island on the Lolita Express.
     
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    Protected, defended and freed from all implication.
     

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