Donald Trump Issues Ominous Threat to Joe Biden

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is not just some conspiracy narrative about so called "weaponized FBI", because Trump is literally saying he WOULD order the government agencies to target Biden. What he does not understand that presidents are immune from lawsuits regarding political actions while in office, but not criminal actions, like the ones Trump committed. No one can sue Bush for Iraq war, no matter how bad the outcome was, and no one can sue Bush Sr for sneak attack on Panama, or Biden for Afghan pullout.

    Donald Trump Issues Ominous Threat to Joe Biden
    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article283955918.html
    Donald Trump warned President Joe Biden he could face a weaponized Department of Justice if he doesn't receive immunity.
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    Trump said on his social media platform, Truth Social, that some of the political issues facing the Biden administration would be enough to earn him a criminal prosecution after his presidency.
     
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    He's scared and doing what he was taught by Roy Cohen. His only chance of escaping justice is him winning the 2024 election. Let's all make damn sure he doesn't. If Joe decides to pardon him after the trials and verdicts, then so be it.
     
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    First of all, I don't know why, but we share the same problem in Poland. People say the President's decisions have no immunity. NO! President's decisions are SUPER-BINDING meaning what the President, as the Head of the Country says, is above all opinions and decisions, and over any organ of power . There's a paragraph for it we adopted from U.S. (Round Table).
     
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    Allegedy committed.
     
  5. Durandal

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    Sounds a tad autocratic to me, but maybe it's just the language barrier.

    A US president cannot do anything he/she pleases and never face consequences for it. This should never be the case in any system of government. But it is important to separate official acts from personal acts, and unpopular official acts from actual criminal acts. Unfortunately, this can lead to ambiguity when it is up to courts to sort it all out. Trump would like to argue that the riot and insurrection he caused at the Capitol was part of his official actions as POTUS, for instance. He wants to be immune from prosecution because he was in office when he lied repeatedly about the 2020 election and spurred people to violence, then sat and watched it unfold on TV and reportedly explicitly refused to take action to stop it.
     
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    No. He isnt being charged with causing the "riot and insurrection"
     
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    Not yet.
     
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    It’s been two years since the kangaroo court so when do tell?
     
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    "Lock her u, lock her up" - do you remember those promises?
    Was Hillary locked up and prosecuted after Trump got in office?
    NO. :confuse:
     
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    Are they waiting to charge him, so that once they do, they can accuse Trump of delaying the proceedings?
     
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    I was just about to rip Trump for saying something so dumb and then I read the article. Are you sure Trump said he would face a "weaponized" anything?

    "With the Border Invasion and Afghanistan Surrender, alone, not to mention the Millions of dollars that went into his "pockets" with money from foreign countries, Joe would be ripe for Indictment," Trump said.


    What do I not like about that above statement? I don't like the Afghanistan part. That wouldn't apply to Biden as a citizen but the Burisma stuff definitely would. So he's half right there. and half wrong

    I did search the article for the word weaponized and the only time I see it is in the author's interpretation of Trump's words:

    Donald Trump warned President Joe Biden he could face a weaponized Department of Justice if he doesn't receive immunity.

    Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article283955918.html#storylink=cpy

    I apologize if I missed something. You did say "weaponized FBI" with quotes so maybe I missed something

    Also, Trump can't weaponize something that already is, but he can change the weapon's direction, and I don't think that's a good thing personally. I knew the democrats dirty deeds would spread over to the other party eventually. (its like these people think their own tactics would never be used against them or something).
     
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    The special prosecutor spent collectively 16 hours with White House council. So, the poutrage can be throttled back.
     
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    Don't believe anything Trump says. All he says results in garbage.
     
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    Except it is the Biden administration doing exactly what they accuse Trump of. They are going after Trump, criminally, for retention of documents, even though a layman can understand the spirit of the PRA law regarding criminality (which is the law that applies to a president's retention of documents), in that it's obvious that there are no criminal penalties associated with a president's mere retention of any document produced by the Executive branch.

    Presidents are not immune from actual crimes. But they don't have actual crimes associated with these documents; again, they simply allege that their retention alone by a president (and not all presidents, or even vice presidents, just Trump) is a crime. They are wrong, and they know it.

    Do they allege that Trump used a document to commit espionage? No, just retention.

    Do they allege that Trump took a document of which the government has no duplicate, thus rendering the government incapable of performing some function (can't think of the law but I'm sure there is some sort of interference of government function law)? No, just retention.

    Do they allege that Trump took a document from a current DOJ case against him or someone else, which would be obstruction of justice? No, just retention.

    Do they allege Trump committed insider trading with these documents? No, just retention.

    Do they allege he has documents that don't fall under the Executive's authority, like possession of unreleased SCOTUS briefs? No.

    This whole thing is so shameful that I can't help but think it's a direct attack on the American system in order to undermine it.
     
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