Houthi attacks continue as US cargo ship hit in defiance of strikes on Yemen

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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    No, the Houthi's rebelled on their own which started a civil war. Civil war ain't our fault dude. I know, I know "murica bad" but you'll need a new scapegoat for that.

    Dude we sell products to people. Its not my fault what anyone does with them. The saudi's can pay, and providing them gear means they depend on us somewhat.
    Relations between nations are prison rules. Yemen is a civil war started by the Houthis, and the legitimate government of Yemen asked for help from its ally. Which isn't all that strange.

    They chant death to america because they're benighted tribesmen who have been bamboozled into following a fanatical religious doctrine, and their leaders tell them to chant.
    All the more reason to not be indirect: What I'm advancing as a strategy is rather direct.
     
  2. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    The US has been fighting the Houthi's since the USS Cole attack... If you think we do not motivate how OUR weapons are used in the region, then you do not know how the Middle East works.

    Still at War: The United States in Yemen
     
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    straight ahead Well-Known Member

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    Who's duh Hooties again?

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  4. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    You mean..... since they ****ed with the boats we've occasionally had to drone strike them or lob a cruise missile and what we should've done years ago when they attacked the cole was root them out and since we half assed it here we all are again so maybe we shouldn't half ass it this time? No ****ing way!!!!!
     
  5. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol, your being idiotic. The disregard from life is coming from those dropping the bombs, and ordering the dropping of the bombs. Israel killed those civilians. They are responsible. Hamas killed those civilians on October 7th. they are responsible for that. As much as you or others try to will those simple facts away, the fact remains that if they didn't drop those bombs indiscriminately on civilians, those civilians would still be alive right now. That is a fact. And no way you twist the facts will change that.
     
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    9/11 was an act of terrorism, so were the bomb vests,
     
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    You have chosen sides in this conflict and your chosen are a terrorist organization. There is no sanitary way to root them out of their underground system so the choice is accept periotic attacks with resulting injury and death to Israelis or go all out. Israel was always going to lose world opinion, the propaganda machine is formidable. I don't know how it's going to turn out for them but I see their frustration and determination and I wish them well.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then so is what Israel is doing,
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't choose sides in conflicts where everyone is in the wrong.
     
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    No sir, I beg to differ.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the 25,000 dead, 2/3 of which are women and children, are dead due to Israeli bombs and bullets.
    that is over 7 times the number that died in 9/11

    In the battle of Hue City, Vietnam, some of the hardest urban fighting in US history since WW2, 5,000 civilians died, including those executed by the VC.
    In the second Battle of Fallujah, 800 people died.
    Since Russia invaded Ukraine, about 2 YEARS ago, about 10,000 civilians died.

    Israel has killed 25,000 in 3 months.
    They are either incredibly incompetent, or they are not trying to limit civilian casualties at all. That is WAY beyond the simple "war is hell" type comments. It is ****ing murder.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, I'm being "idiotic", yet I'm not the one who can't or won't grasp the simple undeniable fact that Israel wouldn't be dropping bombs on Gaza if Iran and its proxies hadn't started this war in the first place. This really isn't a difficult concept, even a school child can grasp it - if you start a fight with someone and you get your ass beat, it's your own damned fault.

    And what exactly did you expect after Hamas started this war and put everyone living in Gaza in harm's way? Did you think that this would be some magically nice and neat affair unlike every war that has preceded it, and that Palestinian civilians would have to pay the butcher's bill that they got handed by the Islamists who decided jihad is the only solution to their "question"? :roll:
     
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    They are dead due to the fortification of their country and the constant attacks on Israel.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That or you're not being honest in your comparisons, i.e., populations, conditions, the number of civilians in the combat zones, etc.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correction to #137 above:

     
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    Maybe because efforts were taken NOT to butcher civilians. Even in Hue where civilians were lined up and shot the casualties were far lower.
    You do not drop 65,000 tons of bombs, mostly unguided bombs, on a population that is among the most dense on earth. There is ZERO excuse for it. I don't give a **** if every single member of Hamas goes unpunished, it is FAR better than the level of butchery Israel has committed. They could have prevented another October 7th through vigilance and increasing defenses on the border. They were absolutely, and many believe purposefully negligent when they let Hamas through.
    Butchering the civilian is not the answer, regardless of whether or not there are human shields. Military force will never solve the problem. The more bombs that drop, the worse this problem will become. Some people seem incapable of thinking beyond dropping bombs in densely populated cities.
     
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    I find it odd that you call out military force, which was retaliatory, and not terroristic murder as something that "will never solve the problem". Do you have an example of terrorists murdering 2-3k innocent civilians, ever solving a problem?
     
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    Why would retaliatory force not be called out ? ---- ?

    So if your family lives in multi level apartment block in crowded area of some city ... and some bad guy wanders into your building .. and the police level the whole building killing most of the people in that building .. including your wife and children ,, you would not call out this retaliatory force ?

    and do you have an example of Israeli terrorists murdering 20-30k innocent civilians solving a problem .. look forward to the answer to your own question.
     
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    The military force is the force that has been violently oppressing Arabs and ethnic cleansing them around for decades on end. They are the institute to make the war crime happen of Israeli Jews colonizing the state of Palestine. The UNSC has made a clear binding resolution that Israel must remove all of them, including from East-Jerusalem. And Hamas is retaliatory. It is so, since what the Jews have been doing, predates Hamas. And so oct 7 2023 did not just came just right out of the blue, like you lot like to pretend.

    Currently the US, the biggest supporter of Israel, has been telling Israel that the Palestinian state must have a viable future and not how Israel and it's Jews have been treating it for decades.
    Netanyahu refuses to comply. But we pretty much know, that he is going to be made to leave the political stage since the Israeli's themselves do not want him to be around.


    Do note. Of them 2-3K civilians... statistically the bulk of those adult Israeli Jews have contributed with the violent oppression of the state of Palestine, and have committed war crimes by chipping in with the illegal colonization of the state of Palestine through terror and murder. They aint that innocent.

    And so if it was up to the US, the Palestinians would get their viable state by killing 2-3k not so innocent civilians.
     
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