E. Jean Carroll is a rich woman.

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  1. dixon76710

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    Probably wondering how he can be sued for defamation for denying Jeans accusations of rape, when not even the civil jury believed her accusations of rape.
     
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    The correct answer is that the dollar amount is not relevant.

    Besides, the $83M was for slander, not his sexual assault of Carroll. And, I quoted a judge on the issue of whether it was rape, remember?

    The whole picture here is that Trump was found guilty of sexual assault and then he went into attack mode on his victim, using his position to make her life intolerable.

    The dollar amount is hardly the point. The behavior is totally disqualifying.
     
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    None of this changes one thing that I said...

    She will be a rich woman if she ever collects following all appeals.

    That much is very much in doubt.
     
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    I didnt know there was a question to be answered. What was the question?
     
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    What do you think will be the bases of Trump's appeals on these issues?
     
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    Yeah right. He went quite a bit beyond that.

    The poinent thing to come out of the E. Jean trial is it reminded the world of what a petulant, narcissistic, manic ass trump is. The more he gets out in front of Americans the more they're reminded of why they voted against him in 2020. E. Jean nailed when she pointed out he's the personification of H.C. Anderson's "The Emperor's New Clothes". The youth vote is seeing he has none, nothing to recommend him and everything to prove he's unqualified. :thumbsup:
     
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    Indeed it is. The question that comes to mind, why are so many supportive if a slimy rapist for POTUS?? His abuse of women is quite well known.
    This lady has lived through H ell, and compensation is fully warranted. (his followers believe he is innocent of al lthe wrong doings he has been accused of. ( delusional as they are)
     
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    For purposes of stating that there will be very real appeals being looked at by other courts across a wide range of areas, it is not necessary to know and or recite the exact nature of those appeals. Of course there will be. To say or imply otherwise is bereft of reality.
     
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    Good lord, doesn’t it get old having to constantly defend that son of a bitch?
    :roll:
     
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    Its easy to defend him of baseless accusations of "rape" as defined by Jean Carroll and being "guilty" of a "crime"....
     
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    Id say Trump has a pretty god record of showing "al lthe wrong doings he has been accused of" to be made up BS. From the Crossfire Hurricane FBI probe in 2016 through his impeachment for January 6th in 2021 and everything in between.
     
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    Oh, so you're going to pony up the 83 mil? You see your "baseless accusation" hits a brick wall when the rubber meets the road trump is going to have to REALLY pay up. 8)
     
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    The verdict was about right. I think it should have been more.

    The attorney had no clue how to try a case,. she got admonished for not knowing how to introduce evidence, over and over and over again she was lambasted by the Judge for her inexperience.

    so how is it that Trump has hired an inexperienced lawyer?

    I'll tell you, no one who is experience wants to represent Trump.

    Why is that?

    Because he is so arrogant, he doesn't listen, he doesn't do what the attorney's say, and he can't keep his trap shut, nor does he pay lawyers, he's notorious for stiffing lawyers.

    In short, he's stupid. This whole trial is self inflicted, as this criminal attorney explains.

     
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    He'll have to put up the money in order to appeal.

    he can put up a bond, but the bondsman will want collateral for the balance (80%, and the collateral will have to be worth more than 80%, in case they have to issue a writ of execution, and they can't collect the full value after liquidating the collateral).

    Frankly, I would be surprised that Trump will be able to find a bondsman that would put up that much money for a notorious deadbeat like Trump. The court is going to execute the judgement, you watch.
     
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    In order to appeal, trump has to put up the cash, or a bond, and what bondsman will put up 80% of 83 million for a guy like Trump? I doubt Trump will be able to find bond outfit, even if he has collateral, they might not want the headache. Trump is a headache, this is certain.
     
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    They believed her accusation of sex abuse, digital penetration, 'grabbing by the p*ssy'.
     
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    $65 million was for punitive damages, the amount the jury calculated would be needed to get him to stop defaming her. It seems to be working, he stopped mentioning her name in tweets now, and in person.
     
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    ~ I wonder if this Jean Carroll is friends with Christine Blasey Ford .. ? :confuse:"
     
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    Not in doubt at all. He'll have to put up the cash in order to appeal, or put up a bond, and what bond outfit would put up $88 million? They will of course ask for collateral, but the collateral, probably a deed of trust, will have to be for an asset whose net worth is substantially more than that amount (in case they have to liquidate it and can't collect the full amount)

    If he can't, then the court will execute the judgement.

    She will get paid. If he does put up the amount, and the court trims the amount, it won't be more than half, she will still be rich (and her attorney will get 1/3).
     
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    In his appeal, Trump may challenge the amount of the award or argue procedural errors in the initial trial. However, it's important to note that he cannot appeal the verdict itself. An appeal can be successful if the appellate court finds that the original court made a significant error, such as improper jury instructions or the wrongful exclusion of evidence, and that this error could have influenced the trial's outcome. As for the likelihood of these appeals succeeding, it's generally challenging to predict judicial decisions. Regarding appealing the amount, while there may be public statements or evidence suggesting Trump's substantial financial resources, the appeal on the damages amount would focus on whether the awarded sum is excessive or inconsistent with legal standards rather than his personal wealth
     
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    To get to the plate on appeal he has to come up with at least 18 million dollars cash and another ~ 70 million dollars in collateral, and then he has to keep his mouth shut about Ms. Carroll; which he doesn't seem to be able to do. His mouth cost him 78 million dollars, he could have paid 5 million and been done, now it's 83+. And this is the man you want for president, who has NO, NONE, ZIP self control. :shock:

    And the JUSTICE SYSTEM, not the Democrats, not haters, not President Biden, not witches, THE JUSTICE SYSTEM is just getting warmed up. He's going to be in court all year long, and the more he opens his filthy sewer, which he can't help, the worse it's going to be for him. I'm going to buy stock in popcorn. 8)

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    He's been doing well in the polls, but this 3 ring circus is reminding American's why they voted against him in 2020. Oh, yeah! That's who Donald Judas Trump really IS. :shock:
     
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    I was unaware that you fancy yourself as being on the jury that was presented with and assessed all the evidence before reaching a verdict.

    Do you have any actual evidence of jury corruption, or are you just upset because you don't like their determination?
     
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    The sexual abuser's incontinent anus mouth is definitely a major problem for him.

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    Because physically assaulting her, then publicly belittling her, were both meant to take away her dignity. Fortunately, he failed in that endeavor as she would not allow it to happen.
    I sense you are frustrated over the ruling despite the jury's failure to find Trump raped her according to the narrow definition in NY law. I guess you think shoving his finger inside her should only get him a slap on the wrist. E. Jean disagrees, and so did the jury. Maybe you would too if a man did that to your daughter.
     
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    Again, this changes nothing in what I have said.
     

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