U.S. strikes more than 85 targets in Iraq and Syria in initial barrage of retaliatory attacks

Let's revise. Suleimani was planning to kill americans in iraq. It was also a retaliation for the american contractor that was killed. Finally, he had been responsible for the death of hundreds of Americans directly and indirectly. It also avoided striking in Iran.

It was a risky move simply because we didn't know how I run would react, but turned out to a good one because it really set them back.

 

Although Jordan is an ally. Maybe that's too bad if Iran doesn't like it...

 

"Our response began today. It will continue at times and places of our choosing," President Joe Biden said in a statement. "The United States does not seek conflict in the Middle East or anywhere else in the world. But let all those who might seek to do us harm know this: If you harm an American, we will respond."

That's a load of crap.

 

It seems more like it just hardened their resolve. What was the setback?

 

Biden strongly handed the military industrial complex truckloads of cash to do absolutely nothing for U.S. citizens excect make us more unsafe.

What did we hit? Nobody cares? It must be the bad guys because the Israeli press says so.

 

Here is a map with US bases from 2019:



Tell us why they are there and why it's worth it, Trump. The base in question in Jordan was there since 2015. Why didn't Trump close it?

The reality is, the American presence in all kinds of countries abroad has been there for decades, and neither conservatives or Democrats have done anything about it. To blame Biden for it is just disingenuous.

No fret, though, Fox News will soon give marching orders as to how to spin this to blame it all on Biden. Until then, Trump supporters are going to be really confused how to respond to this.

 

You should vote for Trump and then you can blame him again. Currently Biden controls our policies related to the world. Biden ordered the recent strikes, not Trump.

 

.Biden controls our policies? I doubt he even controls his bowel movements. It's his puppet master Obama.

 

Well Yeah......

 

Maybe he did it because it’s the right thing to do.

 

And there it is, the continued denial of the right that Biden may just possibly be a good president.

 

Iraq, our host nation, told us not to do the strikes, and is furious at us. We are going to destabilize Iraq...again... even worse than it already is. The airstrikes are going to do nothing but increase anger at the Iraqi government for allowing the US to conduct airstrikes on their territory, swelling the ranks of insurgents...again.

How is it the right thing to do??

 

Your media did tell you that with so much time between the Americans getting killed and Biden's response, along with Biden telling the world he was going to respond, the bases and facilities he hit were evacuated and empty, right? He even tried to get Iran off the hook by saying it's possible they can't control their proxies.

 

Good. Fewer dead bodies. That was by design. The targets were chosen to avoid civilian casualties.

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/02/1228132782/us-biden-iran-drone-response-strike

*** "The facilities that were struck included command and control operations, centers, intelligence centers, rockets, and missiles, and unmanned aired vehicle storages, and logistics and munition supply chain facilities of militia groups and their IRGC sponsors who facilitated attacks against U.S. and Coalition forces," CENTCOM said, referring to Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps. ***

It was efficient. More than 125 precision munitions, striking more than 85 targets. Biden took the time to weigh the consequences and choose strategic targets, instead of emotionally jumping right into violence. That's called leadership.

 

See #40. These were good targets.

 

Actually, it was Trump who had a campaign of hate when he came down that escalator and began his first presidential run by stirring up hate towards immigrants and others that he knows the right fears. He's still running the same campaign, just more openly hateful than eight years ago. The left recognized this, hence the endless campaign to keep such a vile creature out of power.

Trump never did a good thing for anyone unless there was something in it for him.

 

That's what I am talking about. None of those targets in these militia/insurgent groups will be a big deal for them to lose. They'll all be replaced/restructured in a matter of days. If anything, it will flood their ranks with pissed off Iraqis that want the US out of their country. Airstrikes are incredibly ineffective against these sort of forces. It takes boots on the ground to effectively engage them, holding ground indefinitely, which is of course not practical at all.

These airstrikes are a "feelgood" measure that took place so that the administration have something to point to when they say they are doing something. In reality...completely ineffective.

 

See #40. As opposed to most righties here, I prefer to look things up before I post.

 

I could be wrong, but I've always assumed that the Pentagon knows about all of these facilities, and has reasons for maintaining them. It's a bit much IMHO, but I'm not a military strategist.

 

Like I posted in #40, good.

 

Still not a list - just generalities.

 

So … you would have done nothing?

 

So what you're trying to convince us of is that, after all the attacks on Americans where someone would eventually get killed, Biden didn't already have a list of potential targets ready to go? That's called piss poor leadership.

 

We're just brutally honest that way.