Hire The Most Qualified -- Period

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. The real purpose of the thread. Spot on.
     
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    Not everyone sees diversity as racist.

    See, diversity covers every and all minorities regardless of what they look like.
    But racists, they see race in all things, as another has so kindly pointed out.

    So, it's not Boeing that only saw race, it seems to be the others who can only see things from that point.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People really are de-volving aren't they?
    Have we really regressed the point where in 2024 we have to even have a discussion about "should you hire the best person for the job or the most tan?"?
    PATHETIC!
    Look at how far below the bar the left is trying to take us.
     
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  4. Just A Man

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    Sounds like you are for racial privilege when hiring? Sounds like you are against making America great?
    No matter who allows it, it's still wrong.
    NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, and BLM think everything is about race. Is that OK?
     
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    yes, but the Republican majority SC said it was not wrong
     
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    He wasn't asking about the SC, he was asking if you think its OK to hire based on that criteria. Simple yes or no question
     
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    Yes, not sure what SC has to do with 1 person's opinion. Do you think skin color should be hiring criteria? Let's say, for the surgeon they hire to do a life-saving (or taking) procedure on someone close to you some day. DEI a good idea then? Hire the guy who is more tan but has 1000 less surgeries. Good idea? yes or no?
     
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    Those groups didn't start this thread. OK!!
     
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    the republicans on the SC sure did

    I do not think race should be used, I think the most qualified should be used, not the cheapest either - I think you get what you pay for
     
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    the real racists are ones who say blacks need affirmative action to compete against Whites, Jews, and Asians
     
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    Guess i misunderstood. Thanks for clarifying. also, agreed!
     
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    there are actually some legitimate race based reasons for this-to some extent. Just like it makes sense for police departments that operate in large urban areas to hire lots of black police officers-
     
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    So your denying that they did.
     
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    denying what? My comment stands on its own
     
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    I think the reality is that, usually, that's not how hiring ever worked. People need to be qualified, but after that, they tend to hire people they like. People they know, a son of a friend, or just somebody who they got along with well in the interviews. Without an attempt to be inclusive, guess who gets the jobs?

    "Most qualified" on paper usually means little. The person could be horrible to work with. Their resume could be padded. Once deemed qualified, it becomes a popularity contest by default.
     
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    This is funny. So how did the mid management become midmanagement? Because some one was more interested in meeting DEI goals than find the best people? And Unions more interested in longevity than qualifications. And upper management who tried to cut corners on the inspection regime. Oh I think there is plenty of blame to go around and DEI is only part of it. In the end the people pushing DEI are the racists. They are the one's that think that black people can never make it without their help.
     
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    So you are. Got it.
     
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    Sure, that is all true, but DEI doesn't help that, it just adds another layer of bias based hiring to the list you already gave
     
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    I’d take whatever Elon’s got to say these days with a grain of salt. He’s got the boards of Space X and Tesla freaked out and speaking out over his drug use (cocaine, LSD, mushrooms, Teramine). He’s definitely going through some sh*t and needs some help.
     
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    your one liners invariably are lacking substance and usually do not make sense. This one is a prime example
     
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    This whole thread is an example of biased thought. We don't know who messed up on installing the door on the plane. We don't know their color , their religion, their political identity, or even how many individuals worked on it and yet many are making the assumption with no corroboration that it must have been a minority because to Boing's hiring practices.
     
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    Problem is that we let Government count noses to begin with. The recent USSC finding that using race as a criteria for college admission is impermissible given the 14th Amendment? I'd prefer the 1st's freedom of association be primary. Hire and fire whoever you want, for whatever reason you want. Otherwise? You still have government involved with decisions of great importance that will have a negative impact on your over-all society.

    We've seen it in so many areas of life. The most bigoted a$$ hat out there will still in most cases hire/serve/associate with the best regardless or suffer relative to someone doing nose counting.
     
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    Could be but you didn't actually present any evidence that it was. However, I do agree with you, generally speaking.
     
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    What we do know is this did not use to happen and then DEI happened and boom. And note DEI embodies a lot more goofy crap than Race. Including the odd concept that demanding the exceptional is racist. This is what happens when you teach kids that math is racist and that 2+2 =5 is close enough.
     
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